Andy

I'd mostly agree with your statement. I agree that this wasn't corruption. The Peter Principle comes to mind, as does the Stockholm Syndrome. We had guys that have lived the full time ALPA life for far too long. That needs to go; a total cleanout of 'lifer' ALPA people at United and replaced with people who have spent a lot of time flying the line. They were and are totally clueless of how us line swine live.
I don't understand how some of the NC staff from 2012 is still there. They didn't do a great job on our last contract and they did a horrible job on this one. If they're not immediately fired after the TA voting closes, I will be ticked off.
I've spent more than a few years on reserve and I was aghast that the NC was calling an earlier reserve report time as an improvement for the rest of the reserve block. That's totally clueless on their part - complete incompetence. Both pilots and the company play games on reserves. The company has several very easy workarounds to the FIFO list that anyone who's lived this stuff daily knows and what counters are available as one with a reserve line.

This is our DALPA 2015 moment; not much different than the total housecleaning they had to do.

C11DCA

Even worse is Brad H has been on the NC/Contract implementation team since at least 2006!!!!

way past time for him to go

StewBlu

I don’t disagree entirely that some of these folks are out of touch. However, we have to be careful about losing the institutional knowledge that they have as a consequence of being in their roles for as long as they have.

AlettaOcean

You’re just not seeing it from the company’s point of view.

Mudge

But guys/gals. We're talking about a Tumi! How can we roll this into TA2?

StewBlu

Why aren’t you mad at the company for pushing forward this TA?

JoePatroni

I expect the company to try and lowball me….not my own union.

Learjet driver

If you look up Brad under reports he is in a category that has been closed (ORD 777) for 2 years. If you pull up his line award on monthly PBS awards he is on a full month ALPA paid line. We are paying him to deliver the BS that was just pushed on us. During some of the Q&A on the TA he was a full advocate for the company. “You don’t understand”, “this is the best we can do”…. Thanks for your service Brad. We need some people involved with ALPA that have flown the line in the last 10 years.

It has been reported that some people in ALPA leadership that have been at UAL for 25 years (never furloughed) only have 2,500 hours of flight time at United. That is easy math… 100 hours a year? We need to clean house in ALPA. It starts with their CCS Qual screen. If you haven’t flown the line you aren’t qualified to lead us. It’s as simple as that.

LJD

StewBlu

That makes sense. It sounds like you’re “seeing it from the company’s point of view”…

Finessed

You call this a lowball offer? What AA management just did was a lowball offer to kick off negotiations. Scottie just sent a big FU package to your door with a “Read It And Weep” TA inside. Yeah you have two big problems Joe, your representation sucks but so does your management.