United MEC announces suspension of TA Activit

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07-01-2022, 07:25 AM

#61

DashTrash

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Originally Posted by threeighteen

mediators can't impose TAs.

No they can’t, but we don’t want to be labeled as negotiating in bad faith!!! The Company would be within their right to make such a claim, if we actually did pull the TA.

07-01-2022, 07:25 AM

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fadec

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Moving ahead with the vote would be better for for the Q2 earnings report too. If it passes, yay for SK. If it fails, SK can blame it on American and say there's very little difference and we're still very close to a deal. Having an undecided result on top of a bunch of unprecedented union politics wouldn't be a good look at all.

Not to worry though. I'm sure the company will tell our MEC the best course of action and that's what will happen.

07-01-2022, 07:34 AM

#63

Mudge

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We're going to get dominioned/2000 muled on this vote. I'm calling it now. 90% say No but it's still going to pass 🤣

07-01-2022, 08:16 AM

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Augerin

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Originally Posted by AlettaOcean

I’m very suspicious of this as well. It’s supposedly secret, but I suspect they have an inside source that’s feeding them the numbers. Sounds like a Mission Impossible movie but the whole organization is so completely corrupt that nothing would surprise me.

Why don't we have a vote for our own in house union? Can it be any worse than ALPA not serving our interests?

07-01-2022, 09:11 AM

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threeighteen

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Originally Posted by Augerin

Why don't we have a vote for our own in house union? Can it be any worse than ALPA not serving our interests?

United almost left ALPA in the early 80s. Maybe it is time to revisit the idea. If ALPA isn't going to make moves towards becoming a national union, then what's the point of funding the current model where it's really just a political organization.

07-01-2022, 10:01 AM

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AxlF16

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Originally Posted by threeighteen

Go talk to Andy Collins and associates. They'd love to have you on their team.

07-01-2022, 10:26 AM

#67

AlettaOcean

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Augerin

Why don't we have a vote for our own in house union? Can it be any worse than ALPA not serving our interests?

They tried forming UPA in the mid 2000s. Got a little traction, then died off.

UPS and SWA seem to be doing just fine in house.

07-01-2022, 10:34 AM

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jdt30

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It’s going to be the same people running the show whether it’s UAL ALPA, or and independent union.

07-01-2022, 11:17 AM

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UASCOMPILOT

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Augerin

Why don't we have a vote for our own in house union? Can it be any worse than ALPA not serving our interests?

I liked the IACP better then ALPA...

07-01-2022, 11:30 AM

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Dirkkdiggler

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ALPA is just a resource for your MEC. If you don’t like what’s happening, it’s your elected reps’ fault, not ALPA. You could argue against ALPA saying you don’t like how they distribute the resources between airlines and you think you’d be better off with an in house union, but you’re still gonna have the issue of trying to find reps that represent your interests.