AA AIP Makes UAL TA Look Even Worse!

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06-30-2022, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dmeg13021

I guess you’d rather the company drags its feet a few more years with another lousy TA?

I’ll take full retro on 20% raise a year from now over 6 months retro on 4%

I'd rather take a 25% raise a year from now with no retro over 6 months retro on 4%.

06-30-2022, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumberg823

It’s hard to imagine AA could make this turd look any worse but here we are. All the yes votes I’ve heard are all driven by fear and how we won’t get anything better…uh BS! Here you go, more money without gutting their work rules. Any yes voters who thinks we can’t do any better, ask yourself, do you really believe we can’t do better than AA? Heck even if we did as well as AA, it’s better than the terms of our surrender the MEC and LEC’s sent to us.

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How does the UAL NC say hello? They do it the same way a French soldier says hi. They just put both hands up and say, "we surrender." I bet they even bow down like Obama did to the King of Saudi Arabia.

06-30-2022, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by iahflyr

It absolutely does not. That is the point. $1 in July 2022 is worth a lot more to me than getting that same dollar via retro in 2023, even without inflation.

The intrinsic value of a dollar is an interesting discussion. If we're just talking about raw dollars. But the small amount of money we might gain now, is really selling ourselves short. An extra 3K a month doesn't move the needle far enough for me. I figure those of us that entered the profession in the mid 1990's have been shorted about 3 million dollars. I can wait a little longer to see how much of that we can make up in both the long game and the short game.

A few shckeles today....not worth it really. A dollar invested today might not perform that well. It's monopoly money to management.

There are other things to consider. The value of your services, the value of the profession. The trajectory of the profession. What the profession already owes you.

It's time for management to pay up.

Perhaps a little patience is in order.

07-01-2022, 08:35 AM

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Looks like the AA offer also matches DAL profit sharing. I’m not that familiar w/ their plan, but don’t they get a lot more than we do? I would think sitting on the cusp of record-breaking profits would be the time to lock in a bigger piece of the pie.