MEC Lies in their answers to FAQ's
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MEC Lies in their answers to FAQ's
FAQ:
Q2: Do the crew schedulers now have increased access to lineholders for reassignments because of changes to 20-I-5.
A: NO. There has been no change to the level of access or order of reassigning lineholders. The changes in 20-I-5 remove the Untriggered Reassignment Add Pay in some instances for Basic trips that is in the current book (that value was used to fund the part of the new Overtime provisions) but do NOT change the ability to reassign crews
What they are saying here is that you pilots are too stupid to read and understand Section 20-I, because if you weren’t, you would see that what we’re telling you isn’t true.
The Red Line version clearly shows:
1. They deleted the original Step 5 Untriggered Reassignments (20-I-9 old UPA)
2. They deleted the original Step 4 Senior Manning (20-I-7 old UPA)
3. Step 3 is "Reserve Assignments" revised. (20-I-6 old UPA / TA)
4. 20-I-5 is now listed at Step 2 (TA)
20-I Reassignments:
Step 1. Reassignment (Visiting Reserve)
Step 2. Reassignment (Line Holder)
Step 3. Reserve
Outright lie and disinformation - So do potential "Yes" voters know this?
Q2: Do the crew schedulers now have increased access to lineholders for reassignments because of changes to 20-I-5.
A: NO. There has been no change to the level of access or order of reassigning lineholders. The changes in 20-I-5 remove the Untriggered Reassignment Add Pay in some instances for Basic trips that is in the current book (that value was used to fund the part of the new Overtime provisions) but do NOT change the ability to reassign crews
What they are saying here is that you pilots are too stupid to read and understand Section 20-I, because if you weren’t, you would see that what we’re telling you isn’t true.
The Red Line version clearly shows:
1. They deleted the original Step 5 Untriggered Reassignments (20-I-9 old UPA)
2. They deleted the original Step 4 Senior Manning (20-I-7 old UPA)
3. Step 3 is "Reserve Assignments" revised. (20-I-6 old UPA / TA)
4. 20-I-5 is now listed at Step 2 (TA)
20-I Reassignments:
Step 1. Reassignment (Visiting Reserve)
Step 2. Reassignment (Line Holder)
Step 3. Reserve
Outright lie and disinformation - So do potential "Yes" voters know this?
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Posts: 146
Q1: Does the TA force Lineholders to sit Field Standby (FSB) when their flying cancels?
A: NO, just the opposite; Lineholder reassignment into FSB is allowed in the current UPA when the pilot’s trip or originating segment cancels before report time under 20-F-1-a-(5). The TA makes that optional to the pilot even for a reserve. It would require pilot concurrence to accept the FSB, and the pilot would receive 1 hour of Add Pay for the voluntary assignment and 1 hour of Add Pay if the FSB is unused. Note, if the company is operating under Section 20-O, Abnormal Operations, the pilot’s concurrence is NOT needed but the associated Add Pay remains applicable.
No, yes, maybe, TUMI bag!!!!
A: NO, just the opposite; Lineholder reassignment into FSB is allowed in the current UPA when the pilot’s trip or originating segment cancels before report time under 20-F-1-a-(5). The TA makes that optional to the pilot even for a reserve. It would require pilot concurrence to accept the FSB, and the pilot would receive 1 hour of Add Pay for the voluntary assignment and 1 hour of Add Pay if the FSB is unused. Note, if the company is operating under Section 20-O, Abnormal Operations, the pilot’s concurrence is NOT needed but the associated Add Pay remains applicable.
No, yes, maybe, TUMI bag!!!!
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