Originally Posted by Buck Rogers

That may be a distinct possibility. You have much bigger problems if the MEC gets pushed around like that. IF, that is their "excuse", then all pilots should summarily vote NO because it shows complete ignorance and borderline malfeasance by the union.

Originally Posted by 5spot

Well Said, let’s vote this down and clean house. We have as much leverage right now than we will EVER have. We cannot let our leadership squander it..

Originally Posted by AlettaOcean;

Some people insist that we could have or even should have done better; others say they could have done better themselves. For your representatives engaged in the process that led us to an educated outcome, we wonder: Where where you?

Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450

Wasn't this AIP announced just days before AA's wholly owneds announced their massive TA pay scales and 200% LCA pay? That was a coincidence. But this timing of the vote seems intentional. Guess United ALPA likes to be just a wee bit early on things...

Originally Posted by AlettaOcean

Letter in Support of the Tentative Agreement

Last Friday morning, your MEC voted to forward a Tentative Agreement to the United pilots for membership ratification. This letter represents the majority opinion of the MEC members recommending approval of the TA.

Over the past four years, representatives past and present, alongside the officers, committee members, advisors and staff of the MEC have labored to negotiate the agreement now before you. Not every goal was reached; no contentious negotiation can achieve every aim. Nor were all representatives unanimous in all matters; it would be exceptional for any diverse voting body to agree completely on anything. Rest assured that every representative was heard, every viewpoint discussed, every question debated. As such, we in the majority are confident that this agreement represents the best achievable outcome for the greatest number of pilots.

This TA is the result of negotiations under unprecedented and unimagined conditions. The worst of the Coronavirus pandemic may be in the past, but the financial toll taken is still very much with us, coupled with an uncertain economic outlook. The agreement we have now is a result of current conditions, but it also adapts from lessons past by shaping a future that ends the stagnancy created by longer term deals and replaces it with more frequent opportunity to capture ongoing gains.

The agreement before you contains many facets, which we can only summarize here:

• Scope. This TA maintains the integrity of our industry-leading Scope Clause, with strict controls on the new CRJ-550 to regular 50-seat limits while guaranteeing jumpseat availability.

• Economic. This agreement brings $1.3 billion in economic benefits to the United Pilots in the next 24 months including pay rate increases of up to 15.1 percent over two years; with ongoing $800 million in improvements beyond the amendable date. This agreement presents the United Pilots with industry-leading pay rates in nearly every category, all while the company lost $1.4 billion last quarter alone.

• Timing. We all know that the last two years precluded Section 6 negotiations. Emerging from that period as the only legacy carrier still our pre-pandemic size, we’ve taken opportunity to capture market-share and forge a path to industry dominance through massive growth. This strategy will bring improving company financials, and with it our bargaining power. Closer-in, if deteriorating conditions prevail, we will have already locked in industry-leading gains, better positioning us upon improved economic outlook.

• Work Rules. This TA contains the most significant enhancements to working conditions since the original Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement after our merger. Scheduling, Bidding, Training Scheduling, and Reserve Rules see substantive improvements towards pay and quality of life, and provide substantive penalties to current company practices that are commonly reviled yet unrestrained.

• Instructor-Evaluator Enhancements. The agreement makes new strides in attracting the best talent to the Flight Training Center, addressing long-term quality-of-life issues while offering industry-leading pay for the training cadre.

• Retirement and Insurance Benefits. The TA introduces new enhancements and tax-free options for retirement planning, allows for another increase in Long-Term Disability coverage, and protects against the skyrocketing costs of health care by Retirement and Insurance Benefits. The TA introduces new enhancements and tax-free options for retirement planning, allows for another increase in Long-Term Disability coverage, and protects against the skyrocketing costs of health care by indexing plan design changes (such as co-pays and deductibles) directly to pilot pay rates directly to pilot pay rates.

Our synopsis only scratches the surface, so please do not rely on this alone. As with any vote, we implore each of you to exercise due diligence in your decision process. Study the details and materials, attend your LEC meetings or MEC Town Hall meetings and ask the questions directly to the negotiators and subject-matter experts. Talk to your representatives that were at the table, deliberating the merits of this agreement and the conditions under which it was derived.

For those new to Section 6 negotiations, this is the final round in a long and deliberate process. We did not get here by mistake, and not without a lot of work by many, many volunteers and staff. For those who have been around a while, we’ve seen this before. Every representative that voted to send this Tentative Agreement to you were elected by you to make that decision. If it didn’t pass muster, we wouldn’t have sent it to you.

Unfortunately, with the information contained in the TA, you will also be subjected to a lot of extraneous, and in many ways erroneous information. Some people insist that we could have or even should have done better; others say they could have done better themselves. For your representatives engaged in the process that led us to an educated outcome, we wonder: Where were they?

A Word on No Votes

Many base their No vote on a mistaken thought that if we reject a TA now, a better deal is just around the corner. With a complex agreement over three years in the making, any pilot wants will be met with many areas of company buyer’s remorse. With a grossly overdue contract present day, how many more years is one willing to wait and what decision offers the best risk- reward return? Beware of unintended consequences.

If we can offer one final word, it would be this: Context. Your MEC made our decision based upon months of immersion not only in the TA language, but coupled with in-depth industry and economic analysis, as well as steadfast strategizing that considers future negotiations many agreements into the future. It is incumbent upon you to utilize opportunities in the upcoming week to make an informed decision.

When you do, we recommend you vote YES

Originally Posted by UAL3x

Direct quote from the email I just received, “I expect to be held accountable. I realize this is not the agreement the United Pilots deserve. When I cast the vote that counts -my own- I'll be voting NO on this TA.”

Originally Posted by UAL3x

Direct quote from the email I just received, “I expect to be held accountable. I realize this is not the agreement the United Pilots deserve. When I cast the vote that counts -my own- I'll be voting NO on this TA.”

Originally Posted by Otterbox

Scott Kirby must have wrote this because no one from ALPA signed their name to it…

Originally Posted by SeamusTheHound

Any additional context or info on this email?

Was it an individual reply to you, or a group email?

Thx