StarbucksBob

No it doesn’t and regardless is the amount of add pay the only/best metric? Nevertheless, the TA also has increased premium pay in just about every other section (LCA premium pay, 125% PPU, more premium for PIs picking up assignments, single days of the month the company can designate for premium pay, 100% only PPU over holidays).

My point is that there is a substantial increase in premium pay all over the place but everybody here is focusing on narrow segment and that was done in order to help improve reserves QOL. Seems very myopic IMHO.

nfo99

“Like I was saying. I’m sorry I wasted my time here, obviously nothing meaningful to say. See ya”
Yet he is still posting for his keepers👍

StarbucksBob

And you keep contributing nothing useful at all to the conversation. Don’t like my opinion, fine.

CALPilotToo

Explain to me how someone needing to commute in the day before on a day off or if living in base needing be a good boy and be home in bed by 10pm for an 0600 is a QOL improvement basically losing 4 days in the process every month or 48 days a year?

I’m listening.

High on sky

You think 125% PP and some add pay is worth all the gives? The company was offering 200% ADD pay on top of trip credit back in January. They will shell out the money when they need to. And they will need to. We don’t need to spend negotiating capital on it and we don’t need to give anything for it.

tonsterboy5

Let’s talk reserve “improvements” how about 4-5 day max block for domestic fleets unless requested to be 6 days. How about allowing reserve pilots to pick up on days off. If my 4 day work block goes M-Thursday and I want to pick a a premium pay trip on Sunday, it doesn’t interfere with 117 as the company has no problem with 6 day blocks and this would give me 5. Im doing it on own, so the company doesn’t have to restore my day off as I choose to give it up. Heck, I live in base, there is very high chance I would do early shows for extra money on my day off.

AxlF16

As a group we've shown that we are add pay hoes...and this TA is the chickens coming home to roost. I don't blame the company for trying to take advantage of our shortsightedness & selfishness, but WTF is our ALPA leadership thinking? They're turning our contract into an a la carte menu!

That being said I'll answer your question. They could've included all of the Add Pay enticements (but double...) while NOT agreeing to involuntary early assignments on day one. They could've agreed to $$ enticements for all crewmembers to keep FOs current while NOT agreeing to unpaid NQ. That's just 2 things...but I think you get the idea.

Our NC has taken on management's problems as our own. That's wrong and it's a failure on their part. The MEC should've nipped that siht in the bud a LONG time ago.

TFAYD

I don’t want add pay or premium pay. I want QoL. I want my time off protected and not sold out to the company without my concurrence for little $.

fadec

I'm amazed the company managed to keep field standby while turning lineholders into reserves in hubs. Kirby is a rockstar.

GoCats67

I think the myopic viewpoint is yours. You are not seeing how all of the other "improvements" in premium pay are paid for (and then some) by a dramatic reduction in the need for premium pay this TA brings about. Trading 100% add pay trips needed today for early checkins for 2 hours of add pay and the ability to jam it down the throat of a reserve is a major cost savings to the company, not a benefit to the pilot group.

And if you think 2 hours of add pay is going to result in some seismic shift in people picking up trips, I have a bridge in New York I would like to sell you! Currently 100% add pay trips are sitting in open time all day with nobody picking them up, but the union expects such a frenzy of reserves picking stuff up that a commuter doesn't need to worry about the change in report times on day one. Talk about being out of touch!!

Honestly did we learn nothing from the last time that we "increased the costs" of reserve assignments and were told that the company would behave in a way that would result in dramatic QOL improvements for reserves. Have we forgotten that that was the bill of goods we were sold last time and that bill of goods is what got us to where we are today????? The minor increase in costs for reserve abuse will be so much more than offset by the reduction in premium pay, so the company is going to do whatever they legally can and the miniscule add pay amounts will not play any part in their decision matrix. To think it will shows you have not been paying attention, so I guess those on the negotiating committee have not been paying attention and certainly didn't learn from their last time down this road. If you want to change the behavior of both the pilots and the crew schedulers make early reserve assignments pay 100% add pay like they frequently do now, then us local folks would prob pick them up (hell a commuter might come in early for that amount) but 2 hours (only1 for a SC or FSB) of add pay is not going to change the behavior of the pilots and certainly isn't going to change the behavior of the crew desk when it comes to building and making assignments.

Reserve QOL is going to drop dramatically if this TA ia approved.