UAL MEC Approves TA
#75
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Position: Pilot
Posts: 531
I don’t understand the surprise.
pilots and the union did nothing to nudge the company, there is little if any initiative towards solidarity.
if you want to have a good contract, you need to fight and take risk. There is no other option.
you get what you negotiate. The pilots have decided over the last few years to not benefit from the latent leverage that exists.
pilots and the union did nothing to nudge the company, there is little if any initiative towards solidarity.
if you want to have a good contract, you need to fight and take risk. There is no other option.
you get what you negotiate. The pilots have decided over the last few years to not benefit from the latent leverage that exists.
#76
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 351
I don’t understand the surprise.
pilots and the union did nothing to nudge the company, there is little if any initiative towards solidarity.
if you want to have a good contract, you need to fight and take risk. There is no other option.
you get what you negotiate. The pilots have decided over the last few years to not benefit from the latent leverage that exists.
pilots and the union did nothing to nudge the company, there is little if any initiative towards solidarity.
if you want to have a good contract, you need to fight and take risk. There is no other option.
you get what you negotiate. The pilots have decided over the last few years to not benefit from the latent leverage that exists.
#77
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Position: Pilot
Posts: 531
It will pass. Of course it will pass.
Unless pilots are willing to “not help” the company during this dismal and dysfunctional summer there is no hope.
the QOL and compensation will continue to slowly decline industry wide, as it has the last 20 years.
Unless pilots are willing to “not help” the company during this dismal and dysfunctional summer there is no hope.
the QOL and compensation will continue to slowly decline industry wide, as it has the last 20 years.
#79
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: LAX 350 A
Posts: 564
As a member of the Delta pilot group, we are watching this very carefully. I haven’t seen the particulars of the TA but pay seems to fall way short. The 14% is a good starting point. A decent contract (not great) in my eyes would be:
Immediate 14% raise retro to (insert date here)
5% OR inflation rate + 2%, whichever is greater, annual increases.
I can only dream that we at Delta can match other provisions in your current contract (DH, premium pay, crew meals, etc.). I don't hold much hope that we will achieve this.
We are in a unique environment to make some major gains and should not set our objectives low. If we use decent pattern-based bargaining across the industry, these costs will be passed on to the customer without leaving any carrier at a cost disadvantage. Air fares are up over 30% and the PAX are not even blinking and eye.
Good luck guys. If I were voting on your TA it would be solid NO.
Immediate 14% raise retro to (insert date here)
5% OR inflation rate + 2%, whichever is greater, annual increases.
I can only dream that we at Delta can match other provisions in your current contract (DH, premium pay, crew meals, etc.). I don't hold much hope that we will achieve this.
We are in a unique environment to make some major gains and should not set our objectives low. If we use decent pattern-based bargaining across the industry, these costs will be passed on to the customer without leaving any carrier at a cost disadvantage. Air fares are up over 30% and the PAX are not even blinking and eye.
Good luck guys. If I were voting on your TA it would be solid NO.
#80
Banned
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 309
I just copy and pasted the email from ALPA. Don’t shoot the messenger. I already posted that I think this is a CONCESSIONARY TA.
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