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Old 06-24-2022, 09:20 AM
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Was not unanimous.

So there’s that. Not all the reps will have to be recalled.
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Old 06-24-2022, 09:21 AM
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I used to think that any TA would pass MR. I don’t think this one will. I hope I’m right.
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Old 06-24-2022, 09:22 AM
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This is an insult for you with inflation! An easy no vote!
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Old 06-24-2022, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by EAFF95
You’d be assuming wrong.
Youve got to be kidding me. The obvious and easy industry standard fix that would go a long way to improve qol, and UAL didn’t want to budge?
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Old 06-24-2022, 09:27 AM
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I don’t understand the surprise.

pilots and the union did nothing to nudge the company, there is little if any initiative towards solidarity.

if you want to have a good contract, you need to fight and take risk. There is no other option.

you get what you negotiate. The pilots have decided over the last few years to not benefit from the latent leverage that exists.
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Old 06-24-2022, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by AntiPeter
I don’t understand the surprise.

pilots and the union did nothing to nudge the company, there is little if any initiative towards solidarity.

if you want to have a good contract, you need to fight and take risk. There is no other option.

you get what you negotiate. The pilots have decided over the last few years to not benefit from the latent leverage that exists.
let’s see what happens in the vote.
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Old 06-24-2022, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by WhisperJet
let’s see what happens in the vote.
It will pass. Of course it will pass.

Unless pilots are willing to “not help” the company during this dismal and dysfunctional summer there is no hope.

the QOL and compensation will continue to slowly decline industry wide, as it has the last 20 years.
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Old 06-24-2022, 09:30 AM
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The insult is strike worthy
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Old 06-24-2022, 09:35 AM
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As a member of the Delta pilot group, we are watching this very carefully. I haven’t seen the particulars of the TA but pay seems to fall way short. The 14% is a good starting point. A decent contract (not great) in my eyes would be:

Immediate 14% raise retro to (insert date here)

5% OR inflation rate + 2%, whichever is greater, annual increases.

I can only dream that we at Delta can match other provisions in your current contract (DH, premium pay, crew meals, etc.). I don't hold much hope that we will achieve this.

We are in a unique environment to make some major gains and should not set our objectives low. If we use decent pattern-based bargaining across the industry, these costs will be passed on to the customer without leaving any carrier at a cost disadvantage. Air fares are up over 30% and the PAX are not even blinking and eye.

Good luck guys. If I were voting on your TA it would be solid NO.
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Old 06-24-2022, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Seriously? Can you provide some context on how you define significant? The way I read it you gave big time on reserve with allowing assignments as early as 0600 on day 1.

I stopped reading after that.
I just copy and pasted the email from ALPA. Don’t shoot the messenger. I already posted that I think this is a CONCESSIONARY TA.
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