UAL MEC Approves TA
06-24-2022, 03:15 PM
#151
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Social media law #21: As posts to argue the current state of affairs in any given thread increases, the odds of someone blaming a president approaches 1.
Seriously. This TA should've never made it past the MEC.
Truman fired MacArthur. That's where it all went wrong.
Seriously. This TA should've never made it past the MEC.
Truman fired MacArthur. That's where it all went wrong.
06-24-2022, 03:18 PM
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I thought it would pass before the details came out. Maybe some of the immediate retirees, check airman, people looking at Ltd, and instructors are yes but I am a 70/30 no vote prediction. I am usually pretty middle of the road but this isn't even a debate.
06-24-2022, 03:26 PM
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I was an LCA on a narrowbody and am going to LCA training on a widebody soon. I'm a hard NO.
06-24-2022, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy;[url=tel:3447412
3447412[/url]]Do me a favor because I've already looked at the inflation numbers. Go to the BLS website and tell me what month inflation first started ;picking up. Hint: it was several months after Biden took office.
I realize that the buck doesn't stop with the current POTUS, but no need to further enable his shirking of responsibility.
And look a little deeper. That wasn't the Summers comment(s) that I was referring to. He specifically warned about passing more stimulus checks and big spending bills. Here's a little help. But you probably already found this: https://thehill.com/policy/finance/5...y-in-40-years/
I realize that the buck doesn't stop with the current POTUS, but no need to further enable his shirking of responsibility.
And look a little deeper. That wasn't the Summers comment(s) that I was referring to. He specifically warned about passing more stimulus checks and big spending bills. Here's a little help. But you probably already found this: https://thehill.com/policy/finance/5...y-in-40-years/
This TA is an absolute insult. Anyone voting yes because they think “this is the best we’ll do” better educate themselves. Talk to the Delta guys what happened after they were fed the same BS on their 2015 contract for starters.
The company needs desperately to fix TK and training issues. Make them pay for it, for everyone. It’s time to fix all the problems that were promised to be addressed “next time.” If not now, then it’ll never happen.
This ain’t a 2 year contract, it’s 10. You think the company is going to come back to the table in 2 years?!? They’re going to ride this turd until we’re forced to strike after 10 years. Shut this down now, otherwise hang your heads in shame in the face of the rest of the industry.
06-24-2022, 04:50 PM
#158
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No dog on this fight, I fly Brown heavies but seems underwhelming from the outside looking into the passenger side. If we are indeed headed into a recession now was the time to lock in a better TA. I have no doubt you brothers and sisters deserve better, at least keeping up with inflation and scheduling improvements to combat the scheduling optimizer!!
hella.
hella.
06-24-2022, 04:51 PM
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FFS would you guys ****? Keep this thing on track.
This TA is an absolute insult. Anyone voting yes because they think “this is the best we’ll do” better educate themselves. Talk to the Delta guys what happened after they were fed the same BS on their 2015 contract for starters.
The company needs desperately to fix TK and training issues. Make them pay for it, for everyone. It’s time to fix all the problems that were promised to be addressed “next time.” If not now, then it’ll never happen.
This ain’t a 2 year contract, it’s 10. You think the company is going to come back to the table in 2 years?!? They’re going to ride this turd until we’re forced to strike after 10 years. Shut this down now, otherwise hang your heads in shame in the face of the rest of the industry.
This TA is an absolute insult. Anyone voting yes because they think “this is the best we’ll do” better educate themselves. Talk to the Delta guys what happened after they were fed the same BS on their 2015 contract for starters.
The company needs desperately to fix TK and training issues. Make them pay for it, for everyone. It’s time to fix all the problems that were promised to be addressed “next time.” If not now, then it’ll never happen.
This ain’t a 2 year contract, it’s 10. You think the company is going to come back to the table in 2 years?!? They’re going to ride this turd until we’re forced to strike after 10 years. Shut this down now, otherwise hang your heads in shame in the face of the rest of the industry.
By the way, there's no way we'd be allowed to strike so it's silly to suggest otherwise.
06-24-2022, 05:02 PM
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We may not be allowed to strike but IMO we should overwhelmingly vote this down, the NC should resign, the MEC needs to poll the membership, and we we should request mediation ASAP. IOW this should go down in flames and we need to break with management on the niceties and messaging to the public.
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