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Old 06-15-2022, 03:36 AM
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Here are the UPS rates.



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Old 06-15-2022, 04:30 AM
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So it looks like they got 11%, 3%, 3%. Not earth shattering. Wonder what other improvements are included.
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Old 06-15-2022, 04:42 AM
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I think they pulled in some gains on their pension as well.

That said, look at the dates. Sept 2023, 24 and 25
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Old 06-15-2022, 04:58 AM
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From a friend below:

UPS pilots have negotiated a tentative agreement (TA).
So their A-Fund pension is $4,650 x YOS (years of service, 30 max) = $139,500 per year in retirement.
They also used to get 12% B fund. No detail yet what the increase in B fund looks like.
81 hour monthly guarantee.
They got a contract in 2016 with 14.65% pay increase at date of signing and 3% every year since, 4% in 2021 and 3% in 2022.


United has the same work rules since 2012 ... and pay rates unchanged from Jan 2019.
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Old 06-15-2022, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Ualhvyjet
From a friend below:

UPS pilots have negotiated a tentative agreement (TA).
So their A-Fund pension is $4,650 x YOS (years of service, 30 max) = $139,500 per year in retirement.
They also used to get 12% B fund. No detail yet what the increase in B fund looks like.
81 hour monthly guarantee.
They got a contract in 2016 with 14.65% pay increase at date of signing and 3% every year since, 4% in 2021 and 3% in 2022.


United has the same work rules since 2012 ... and pay rates unchanged from Jan 2019.

No inc in B fund, no chg in work rules
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Old 06-15-2022, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jetlaggy
No inc in B fund, no chg in work rules
It’s a contract extension not a new CBA.
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Old 06-15-2022, 06:30 PM
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That’s what winning looks like
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Old 06-16-2022, 05:22 AM
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Their single rate across all fleets makes a lot more sense than what we’re doing.
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Old 06-16-2022, 06:33 AM
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Their single rate across all fleets makes a lot more sense than what we’re doing.
But we have no idea of what “we’re doing” yet?
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Originally Posted by Barley
Their single rate across all fleets makes a lot more sense than what we’re doing.
So you are saying the senior WB CA’s are ok with freezing/taking a pay cut to bring the NB CA rates up?

I want some of the wacky weed you are smoking
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