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Old 06-14-2022, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by C17man
All I’m saying is that the close of the Vacancy bid will be delayed after the language is released.

I did something novel…. emailed my reps (ORD) and they disagree with you. We have leaky contractual language that prevents your scenario.

Next voting would be starting in mid August if it passes the MEC vote, then road shows. Try again
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Old 06-14-2022, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by flynd94
I did something novel…. emailed my reps (ORD) and they disagree with you. We have leaky contractual language that prevents your scenario.

Next voting would be starting in mid August if it passes the MEC vote, then road shows. Try again
Your efforts are futile. I’m not talking about the vote. Just the close of the bid…Great SA.
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Old 06-14-2022, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by KnightNight
I could see they might if they think the new contract would fill those unfilled captain slots
There are 35 unfilled CA slots on the snapshot (out of 620 unfilled total)

Its only going to get worse. According to the latest crew resources update just for coastal hubs (EWR, DCA, LAX, SFO) they are planning 500 more Captain bids just on the 737 to staff next summer flying because of about 70 more MAX deliveries by the spring. This doesn’t include the people that will leave the coasts because they can hold ORD, DEN and IAH 737 CA.

Also you have 300+ WB vacancies they will need to fill (not including retirements) this is 800 more. These are going to go unfilled all day long. They are gong to have to remove the 500 hour requirement and put new hires in the left seat to fill them.

2023 is going to be an interesting year from a staffing perspective.
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Old 06-14-2022, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by C17man
Major rules probably won’t change but the incentives (ie $$$) will be changing…thus incentivizing sitting reserve and pulling more drivers to the coasts.
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Old 06-14-2022, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
There are 35 unfilled CA slots on the snapshot (out of 620 unfilled total)

Its only going to get worse. According to the latest crew resources update just for coastal hubs (EWR, DCA, LAX, SFO) they are planning 500 more Captain bids just on the 737 to staff next summer flying because of about 70 more MAX deliveries by the spring. This doesn’t include the people that will leave the coasts because they can hold ORD, DEN and IAH 737 CA.

Also you have 300+ WB vacancies they will need to fill (not including retirements) this is 800 more. These are going to go unfilled all day long. They are gong to have to remove the 500 hour requirement and put new hires in the left seat to fill them.

2023 is going to be an interesting year from a staffing perspective.
Do the projected numbers for next summer include the vacancies from this bid? Didn’t specify from what I could tell
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Old 06-14-2022, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by flynd94
I did something novel…. emailed my reps (ORD) and they disagree with you. We have leaky contractual language that prevents your scenario.

Next voting would be starting in mid August if it passes the MEC vote, then road shows. Try again
Mid August?

Assume MEC gets the TA on 20Jun, then votes on 27 Jun to approve & send to MR. Is your LEC really expecting 6 weeks for the MR vote? Id expect more like 4 weeks...giving us a late July vote. That' enough time for roadshows, con arguments, individual consideration, group discussion, and allows us to see the 2Q results prior to voting.
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Old 06-14-2022, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by KnightNight
I could see they might if they think the new contract would fill those unfilled captain slots
why?

there is nothing stopping the company from doing another vacancy bid.
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Old 06-14-2022, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by C11DCA
why?

there is nothing stopping the company from doing another vacancy bid.
Idk, timing , filling training slots ?
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Old 06-14-2022, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
Based on these snapshots. If these WB vacancies go unfilled, what are the odds of them showing up on the drops for new hires? I ask as a new hire who isn’t necessary interested in a WB slot at this moment of time, but a NB slot instead.
We’ve already put new hires in WB equipment. Those that bid for and begin training in a WB, beware of what you’re buying. You WILL be on Global Reserve for 8 years at least. You will take your probationary training event in an airplane that you’re not going to fly. Another thing is that if you haven’t done much/any Class II or ETOPS previously, that’s another threat. It’s not difficult and only takes doing it a couple of times to get it, but that’s another threat.

Just some things to consider…
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Old 06-14-2022, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DashTrash
We’ve already put new hires in WB equipment. Those that bid for and begin training in a WB, beware of what you’re buying. You WILL be on Global Reserve for 8 years at least. You will take your probationary training event in an airplane that you’re not going to fly. Another thing is that if you haven’t done much/any Class II or ETOPS previously, that’s another threat. It’s not difficult and only takes doing it a couple of times to get it, but that’s another threat.

Just some things to consider…
Might just be more lucrative than ever to sit global. Can’t beat living in base on global with a young fam as well. IMHO.
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