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06-10-2022, 12:17 PM

#21

KnightNight

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Originally Posted by GoCats67

My understanding is that it won't really be "current" until the first snapshot is processed. So Monday late afternoon it might actually start telling you somewhat meaningful data. Of course, even that is subject to change based on everybody changing their bids.

Weird, I guess it updated because things it said I could hold yesterday are gone today despite somewhat large openings. I know it’s not indicative of anything really but was curious if with the factored in standing bids I’d have a shot ha

06-10-2022, 01:44 PM

#22

Sixty N Two

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Originally Posted by KnightNight

May have to do with new min/max numbers???

06-10-2022, 03:50 PM

#23

FriendlyPilot

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Originally Posted by GoCats67

And further good news is that in the Min-Max document you see that every single seat except for the SFO 787 seats has the min number of assignements equal to the max number of assignments. This means that every person that leaves a seat (other than SFO787) has to be backfilled!!.

The movement at the low of the seniority list is going to be astounding on this one!

This is going to be huge. There are 771 total vacancies. With every single category except SFO 787 requiring an backfill PLUS every single vacancy having 8-C-4-a secondaries, I wouldn’t be shocked to see 1,500 total awards with probably 1,000 unfilled after this. I hope they are hiring pilots like crazy because we are going to need them.

06-10-2022, 06:29 PM

#24

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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot

New hire here. What is a secondary vacancy? I don’t have access yet to the UAP Contract.

With your gauge of the new vacancies what aircraft would mostly likely let me hold IAH the quickest at this time?

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06-10-2022, 06:36 PM

#25

ugleeual

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Originally Posted by BailedOut

‘secondary vacancy pops open (on same vacancy bid) when a pilot gets awarded a new fleet/seat/domicile… the company then back fills with those junior to that pilot who wants their current fleet/seat/domicile. I’d take a 737 or 320 in that order to get to IAH quickest.

06-10-2022, 06:38 PM

#26

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Originally Posted by ugleeual

Thank you. Is there a substantial time gap between the two aircraft at this time?

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06-10-2022, 07:12 PM

#27

futurepilotjr

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Any thoughts on how long on property to hold WB CA it’ll be?

06-10-2022, 07:17 PM

#28

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QUICKER than the boom jet, SLOWER than the guppy.

06-10-2022, 07:29 PM

#29

TodKindrsChikun

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Originally Posted by ugleeual

That’s somewhat incorrect. Secondary vacancies occur when the staffing for a BES(base, equipment, status) falls below a min level set by the company as a result of pilots bidding off that airplane. The company may backfill up to the min staffing level via a secondary bid that runs concurrent with the primary bid. The secondary bid is open to all pilots and not just pilots junior to the ones bidding off as the poster alluded to. Sometimes secondary bids for certain BES can go very senior if there are only a few awarded.

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