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Old 06-28-2022, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DashTrash
I'm not trying to say that the UALMEC doesn't have blame, but remember that almost all of this TA was negotiated before the pandemic. So I'm kind of following what (I Believe) Andy posted a while ago. Maybe MH wants to start anew? They couldn't suddenly renege on what was previously agreed upon by the prior MEC because that puts you on the wrong side of the NMB if things get to that point. That would be negotiating in bad faith. So, maybe MH is hoping this thing tanks so he can start from scratch based on pilot polling that is not four years old???
I like the positivity. One can only hope.
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Old 06-28-2022, 08:52 AM
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Mike Hamilton was previously Insler’s executive administrator. Has has been working for the UAL MEC in one capacity or anther for the for his entire 25 plus year career. Between the MEC, ALPA national (former EVP) and working in the training department his entire
UAL career he has less then 2,000 hours on the line. He was Insler’s hand-picked successor. He knew everything about what went on during this entire contract negotiation cycle. No excuses for him

Also it’s ALPA policy that the Master Chairman is a defacto member of the negotiating committee. Mike’s been in the position since Jan when a lot of this (the stuff we all dislike) was horse traded to get a TA. His DNA is all over this TA.

If we can send this TA down in flames, time to clean house with our MEC, no free passes!

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Old 06-28-2022, 09:53 AM
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Mike Hamilton was previously Insler’s executive administrator. Has has been working for the UAL MEC in one capacity or anther for the for his entire 25 plus year career. Between the MEC, ALPA national (former EVP) and working in the training department his entire
UAL career he has less then 2,000 hours on the line. He was Insler’s hand-picked successor. He knew everything about what went on during this entire contract negotiation cycle. No excuses for him

Also it’s ALPA policy that the Master Chairman is a defacto member of the negotiating committee. Mike’s been in the position since Jan when a lot of this (the stuff we all dislike) was horse traded to get a TA. His DNA is all over this TA.

If we can send this TA down in flames, time to clean house with our MEC, no free passes!
I agree. This process started in 2018 and was essentially put on hold during the pandemic minus a few meetings. Not buying any Covid excuses for this crapy TA . But trying to instill fear about what might happen has been raised to an artform from the MEC.
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Old 06-28-2022, 10:45 AM
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Mike Hamilton was previously Insler’s executive administrator. Has has been working for the UAL MEC in one capacity or anther for the for his entire 25 plus year career. Between the MEC, ALPA national (former EVP) and working in the training department his entire
UAL career he has less then 2,000 hours on the line. He was Insler’s hand-picked successor. He knew everything about what went on during this entire contract negotiation cycle. No excuses for him

Also it’s ALPA policy that the Master Chairman is a defacto member of the negotiating committee. Mike’s been in the position since Jan when a lot of this (the stuff we all dislike) was horse traded to get a TA. His DNA is all over this TA.

If we can send this TA down in flames, time to clean house with our MEC, no free passes!
Spot on! Simply spot on.An airline pilot that doesn’t know sh!t about flying the line.
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Old 06-28-2022, 07:34 PM
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Spot on! Simply spot on.An airline pilot that doesn’t know sh!t about flying the line.
Mike should resign the day this thing goes down. The NC and many on the MEC should resign as well. Nothing personal but the fact is they will be viewed as failing the pilot group.
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Old 06-30-2022, 08:51 PM
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Default With APA TA ZERO reason to vote yes.

We will see the APA deal soon but no way it's worse than the UAL TA. DAL will get a deal soon and that will be the benchmark. Without a generous retirement improvement they should all get **** canned .
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Old 06-30-2022, 09:26 PM
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Without a generous retirement improvement ….
Stop being your own echo chamber! We get 16%. That’s more than any doctor, lawyer, engineer, or investment banker that I know. It’s good. When we negotiate for improvements, let’s make it to things we can enjoy the benefit from now! We don’t need more retirement contributions.

If you keep talking about retirement increases, you’re just setting yourself up to be disappointed. United did not get any retirement increases in our TA and American did not get any retirement increases in their offer. It’s not going to happen.

Pensions are dead. If you can’t retire on 16% of a 300k+ a year job, you might have a problem.
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Old 06-30-2022, 10:09 PM
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Default Breaking!! Ta suspended.

What a convenient way for the MEC to say we effed up.
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Old 06-30-2022, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
Stop being your own echo chamber! We get 16%. That’s more than any doctor, lawyer, engineer, or investment banker that I know. It’s good. When we negotiate for improvements, let’s make it to things we can enjoy the benefit from now! We don’t need more retirement contributions.

If you keep talking about retirement increases, you’re just setting yourself up to be disappointed. United did not get any retirement increases in our TA and American did not get any retirement increases in their offer. It’s not going to happen.

Pensions are dead. If you can’t retire on 16% of a 300k+ a year job, you might have a problem.
You sir might as well just plan on being a scab with that attitude. Find your spine, it runs up and down your back.
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Old 07-01-2022, 05:32 AM
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You sir might as well just plan on being a scab with that attitude. Find your spine, it runs up and down your back.
Tell that to the UPS and FEDEX pilots.
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