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Old 06-23-2022, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Wingedbeast
idiots in this country cared more about mean tweets than economics.
Some folks don’t like “mean”, and do like Democracy. Maybe the detriment of grift and white-nationalism was too high a price to pay for a better economy? Different folks, different values…


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Old 06-23-2022, 12:14 PM
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Some folks don’t like “mean”, and do like Democracy. Maybe the detriment of grift and white-nationalism was too high a price to pay for a better economy? Different folks, different values…


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Do you actually believe this? Grift is in both parties and has been forever. Its called politics. It's not like the Biden family is better than Trumps or the Clinton's or the Bush's. White nationalism? Really? Who did more damage? A stolen podium from the MAGA crowd or billions in BLM burning? If you look at actual crime data, and death statistics, white nationalism is the least of our worries and at best, a made up narrative to emotionally bait people for a vote. Doctors and big pharma negligently kill more people than anyone by far. So what makes the difference? A better contract with a 40% pay increase. Then we can all point fingers at each other for blame from our boats in the middle of the lake on a nice summer day.
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Old 06-23-2022, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mudge
Do you actually believe this? Grift is in both parties and has been forever. Its called politics. It's not like the Biden family is better than Trumps or the Clinton's or the Bush's. White nationalism? Really? Who did more damage? A stolen podium from the MAGA crowd or billions in BLM burning? If you look at actual crime data, and death statistics, white nationalism is the least of our worries and at best, a made up narrative to emotionally bait people for a vote. Doctors and big pharma negligently kill more people than anyone by far. So what makes the difference? A better contract with a 40% pay increase. Then we can all point fingers at each other for blame from our boats in the middle of the lake on a nice summer day.
We could get a 100% pay increase and a diamond studded unicorn - but Trump and his enablers will still be traitors who attempted to subvert a fair election. This will always be true regardless of how much you and your fellow enablers attempt to whitewash and excuse authoritarianism.
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Old 06-23-2022, 12:55 PM
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We could get a 100% pay increase and a diamond studded unicorn - but Trump and his enablers will still be traitors who attempted to subvert a fair election. This will always be true regardless of how much you and your fellow enablers attempt to whitewash and excuse authoritarianism.
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Old 06-23-2022, 01:06 PM
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The lag between policy & real-world economic output is most frequently measured in years & decades- not weeks or months. As a general rule, presidents stand on economies largely crafted by their predecessors; & thus tend to get too much credit for strong economies & too much blame for weak ones.

Anyone who honestly thinks the major contributing factor to todays economy is that “Joe broke it” only betrays a weak grasp of the situation.
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Grabbing the popcorn now. I saw the previews and the falling off the bike scene and mumbling was awesome.
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Old 06-23-2022, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TodKindrsChikun
Nicely stated.
lol. The Ministry of Truth? Mandatory vaccines? Speech censorship? What administration is authoritianism in disguise? Illegal immigration for votes? Besides. Get over Trump. It's history. Just don't think another Biden/Harris term is better than any alternative the right or center comes with. Do we want the rest of the U.S. to look like an L.A. or Chicago at triple the taxes to live? Crime rates through the roof. Overdoses from illegal drugs a constant. I for one do not. Some of us don't need a master to tell us what to think or believe. Freedom and liberty are alot more fun and sustainable. Or are you waiting for the second planned pandemic to feel the need to fear?
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lol. The Ministry of Truth? Mandatory vaccines? Speech censorship? What administration is authoritianism in disguise? Illegal immigration for votes? Besides. Get over Trump. It's history. Just don't think another Biden/Harris term is better than any alternative the right or center comes with. Do we want the rest of the U.S. to look like an L.A. or Chicago at triple the taxes to live? Crime rates through the roof. Overdoses from illegal drugs a constant. I for one do not. Some of us don't need a master to tell us what to think or believe. Freedom and liberty are alot more fun and sustainable. Or are you waiting for the second planned pandemic to feel the need to fear?
So much bifurcation. Joe is a lackluster centrist who occasionally panders to the crazier arm of his party. Trump was a narcissist who tried to override the outcome of a democratic election. Both of these things can be true. No matter how 11/20 turned out, either one would be presiding over an economy in the toilet right now.

A desire to hold Trump accountable for what was essentially an attempted American coup is not necessarily an endorsement for a second Biden administration. I think there are around 3-7 people remaining in the country who still understand that.
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Old 06-23-2022, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
So much bifurcation. Joe is a lackluster centrist who occasionally panders to the crazier arm of his party. Trump was a narcissist who tried to override the outcome of a democratic election. Both of these things can be true. No matter how 11/20 turned out, either one would be presiding over an economy in the toilet right now.

A desire to hold Trump accountable for what was essentially an attempted American coup is not necessarily an endorsement for a second Biden administration. I think there are around 3-7 people remaining in the country who still understand that.
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
So much bifurcation. Joe is a lackluster centrist who occasionally panders to the crazier arm of his party. Trump was a narcissist who tried to override the outcome of a democratic election. Both of these things can be true. No matter how 11/20 turned out, either one would be presiding over an economy in the toilet right now.

A desire to hold Trump accountable for what was essentially an attempted American coup is not necessarily an endorsement for a second Biden administration. I think there are around 3-7 people remaining in the country who still understand that.
Sir this APC you are either full on cat rancher or fox news 24/7. Thems the rules!
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