Latest AIP rumor 6/7/22
06-21-2022, 12:19 PM
#311
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Yes the company can afford an A plan but at what cost to the rest of the contract? Just because you have this itch for a pension at all costs doesn't mean everyone else does or that it is worth it to US in negotiating capital. You need about 6250 other pilots as hell bent and ignorant of the process to pass your "pension above all contract." You saying "they manage we fly" is leading to pilots not understanding how the pie is being cut up or how big the pie is. The more engaged and educated we are as a group the better. Contracts are 800 pages... no one section is the place to have Custers last stand.
06-21-2022, 12:26 PM
#312
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06-21-2022, 01:02 PM
#313
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I have noticed a trend in some who think we could harm the company with large contractual gains across many sections. I find that notion akin to leaving cash on the table. It’s up to the company to determine their own level of acceptance. We should not be in the business of determining what’s acceptable for the company.
Yes, the side argument in the Furlough LOA of helping the company in order to gain market share concerned the hell out of me. I think that mindset is still pervasive and could be employed again.
06-21-2022, 01:06 PM
#314
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Joined APC: Aug 2021
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Senior Check Pilots get $427/hour with the new deal. Not bad for flying a RJ. Second year FO's will be paid $450/hour during "critical coverage" trips. Any pilot who hasn't flowed up to mainline by year 5 will have their hourly rate set to 20 year CA pay. Meanwhile Isom is offering AA pilots 4%....lol
06-21-2022, 01:11 PM
#315
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Yes the company can afford an A plan but at what cost to the rest of the contract? Just because you have this itch for a pension at all costs doesn't mean everyone else does or that it is worth it to US in negotiating capital. You need about 6250 other pilots as hell bent and ignorant of the process to pass your "pension above all contract." You saying "they manage we fly" is leading to pilots not understanding how the pie is being cut up or how big the pie is. The more engaged and educated we are as a group the better. Contracts are 800 pages... no one section is the place to have Custers last stand.
06-21-2022, 02:25 PM
#316
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Saying what I’m attaching this sentiment to is insinuating that I know what’s in the agreement. I do not. I do have a guess but to discuss that would be useless unless it comes to fruition.
I have noticed a trend in some who think we could harm the company with large contractual gains across many sections. I find that notion akin to leaving cash on the table. It’s up to the company to determine their own level of acceptance. We should not be in the business of determining what’s acceptable for the company.
Yes, the side argument in the Furlough LOA of helping the company in order to gain market share concerned the hell out of me. I think that mindset is still pervasive and could be employed again.
I have noticed a trend in some who think we could harm the company with large contractual gains across many sections. I find that notion akin to leaving cash on the table. It’s up to the company to determine their own level of acceptance. We should not be in the business of determining what’s acceptable for the company.
Yes, the side argument in the Furlough LOA of helping the company in order to gain market share concerned the hell out of me. I think that mindset is still pervasive and could be employed again.
06-21-2022, 02:41 PM
#317
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The threat of instant grounding should be incentive enough.
06-21-2022, 02:43 PM
#318
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06-21-2022, 03:24 PM
#319
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Position: 757/767
Posts: 538
There will still be a shortage in 2 years. I'm not sure how well it will go over to give everyone a 50% payout in 2 years. I'm guessing they will extend those rates.
06-21-2022, 03:43 PM
#320
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Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 216
what career are you comparing to for retirement? My financial advisors eyes almost popped out of his head when I told him what our DC is, and he works with some very high net worth individuals
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