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06-20-2022, 12:30 PM

#281

Tesla S

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I’m going to wait for Swayne to make a video so I’ll know how to vote

06-20-2022, 01:02 PM

#282

AxlF16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudge

lol
Harsh. But the truth is I'd like to see all of us with better pay, qol and the like. Yes, myself included.

🙂. We're going to have plenty of time to read, decide, discuss, and persuade after Friday. I'm optimistic for a couple of reasons...but I'm ready to call it whatever it is!

06-20-2022, 02:46 PM

#283

That Guy 74

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Originally Posted by Tesla S

I’m going to wait for Swayne to make a video so I’ll know how to vote

Now that's funny right there, I don't care who you are!

06-20-2022, 03:41 PM

#284

Augerin

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Originally Posted by horrido27

True but I don't think (hope I'm wrong!) that there are 51%.
However, the company has hired 6230ish pilots since the merger (JY being the bottom Legacy guy).. so they probably "assume" that a majority of those who are eligible to vote have different goals/wants than the 2 Legacy groups.

Time will tell but I expect we will start to see/hear the direction this up coming weekend.
Hell, they delayed a Vacancy Bid closing based on a "TA" that hasn't even made it passed the MEC let alone been voting on by the membership!

Oh Well..
Motch

They are counting on all the sheep to just fall in line.

06-20-2022, 03:52 PM

#285

nancy33

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Dude you know we get drug tested right

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Originally Posted by threeighteen

two weeks can be used to get 90 days off in a row if you bid right.

06-20-2022, 08:33 PM

#286

Mytime2025

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper66

unfortunately ( if rumors are true ) no matter what we say here

it will pass
you and I know that

I agree with that. This pilot group will vote for turd if it floats and is endorsed by the MEC. Friday we will see just how important financial freedom is to ALPA.

06-21-2022, 04:08 AM

#287

Mitch Rapp

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Originally Posted by Mytime2025

I agree with that. This pilot group will vote for turd if it floats and is endorsed by the MEC. Friday we will see just how important financial freedom is to ALPA.

I agree, but the question is why. Why do the pilots always end up voting yes? The forums are always wrong because most pilots stay off of them.

The ALPA sales machine is very effective and in my opinion the driving force. How do we combat it?

im hoping I’m wrong this time

06-21-2022, 05:22 AM

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Mytime2025

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Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp

There is very little you can do other than vote. Unfortunately most pilots just wait to have ALPA tell them how to vote. The MEC is a master at making excuses based on some economic assumption that the company can't afford to provide any retirement plan for the pilots and most buy that BS. Our only hope right now imo is to wait for DAL and AA assuming this new TA has a matching clause in it. My prediction is that this TA will be very very underwhelming like 5% , 4% ,4% no improvement to retirement some improvement to reserve rules, smal improvement to vacation / training pay. In other words a pay cut based on inflation from 2018. The sad part is the MEC will vote yes unanimously and all pat themselves on the back on how they worked so hard to bring this " industry leading contract " to the pilots.

Last edited by Mytime2025; 06-21-2022 at 05:47 AM.