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Old 06-11-2022, 04:02 AM
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Theoretical question: assuming we're profitable this quarter, a 5% pay increase is triggered IAW the LOA, correct? So, if a new contract specifies a 4% increase for the first year (totally hypothetical, I have zero inside knowledge) - does it stack with the 5% increase or overrides it?
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Old 06-11-2022, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
AA is paying its Wholly Owned 50 seat RJ captains $146/hr to start and topping out at $213.75 now…
On RJ rates that are more than what Delta negotiated to fly them at the mainline.
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Old 06-11-2022, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by rockelino
Theoretical question: assuming we're profitable this quarter, a 5% pay increase is triggered IAW the LOA, correct? So, if a new contract specifies a 4% increase for the first year (totally hypothetical, I have zero inside knowledge) - does it stack with the 5% increase or overrides it?
No. UAL needs 4 consecutive profitable quarters to trigger the 5% raise.
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Old 06-11-2022, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mytime2025
Defined Benefit (Pension) maxes at $130,000/yr after 25 years of service



B Fund: 9% Direct Contribution to



This is the industry leader ALPA.


Originally Posted by Mytime2025
Pilots 3,008 Flat dollar amount increases to $4,300 in 2022 and $4,400 in 2023



Right out of airline pilot central. .


Yes, UPS pension increase with their contract a couple of years ago. But I though you were saying both increased. FedEx pension has been the same for decades. I thought maybe you knew something I didn’t.

Originally Posted by Vdrive
Being a 26 yr UPS guy, this statement is false.
Using 2 weeks of vacation can get you 8 weeks off.
( not 90 days )
I think he was referring to FedEx as he was responding to my confirmation that FedEx does get 6 hours of pay per vacation day.

There is a way to turn 16 days of vacation into 90 days. There is a very specific way of doing it that happens four times a year.

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Old 06-11-2022, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Lenticularis
best slam of the month award!
No, it isn’t. We need peer review/input. Those types of comments make our pilot group look childish. Delta pilots aren’t the issue here. The pilots in the mirror are.

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Old 06-11-2022, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by TodKindrsChikun
The most concerning statement of the entire post.
Ain't that the truth. 20$ says he’s a Mgmt type. Probably wears his coat and hat year round, but reluctantly wears his ALPA pin.
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Old 06-11-2022, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
impossible
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it’s very possible. there’s an article from the union that explains how to do it.

Originally Posted by Vdrive
Being a 26 yr UPS guy, this statement is false.
Using 2 weeks of vacation can get you 8 weeks off.
( not 90 days )
Prob not possible at UPS but it is possible at FedEx.
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Old 06-11-2022, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mytime2025
Since when has the MEC not voted unanimously? My expectations this once in a career contract are low. Why ? Because ALPA doesn't have the guts to demand that this profession deserves to return to the old days of lifelong financial security and fight to get our pensions back. Pilots get caught up in pay rates , scope , age 65 etc and lose sight of the big picture and management just laughs at us as they should. This AIP will be just another slap.in the face nothingburger.No pre judgement here just living in reality.

Good luck we are all going to need it.
Since when? Since…

1. The Pandemic LOA
2. The UPA Extension

…to name just two.
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Old 06-11-2022, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mytime2025
This AIP came awfully fast after Mike took the reigns. Coincidence?

ALPA has historically been littered with management wannabes.
Hamilton has been MEC chairman for 3+ months and all of a sudden he’s gone from being a loyal and dedicated ALPA volunteer for 20+ years (rep, officer, EVP, EA and now MEC chairman) to being a management wannabe? That’s some serious dark side conversion right there. Or maybe it’s just another imagined conspiracy theory.
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Originally Posted by StewBlu
How many conversations have you had with the man?

Exactly. I worked on the MEC with Mike for over 5 years. Always professional and dedicated. One of the best. I was surprised he took the job in all honesty.


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