Schedule Flexibility & QOL at United
#31
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2022
Position: Desk-130
Posts: 101
I’m a junior 737 CA - about 73% overall in domicile, about 90% of line holders (737 DCA), hired / furloughed in 2008.
I formerly was a senior 737 FO (10-15%).
Best pay: line holder CA. It’s impossible to fly less than 90 hours so pay is great. It’s easy to break slightly over 100-110 credit hours. Junior line holder CA is kinda like flying all your FO trips at 50% add pay.
Best QOL: senior FO. As a senior FO I could turn a week of vacation into 2+ weeks off. I could senior man and on average, my pay was about that same as a junior/reserve CA. But unlike a junior CA I never worried about getting any specific days or even weeks off. I could hustle and make junior CA pay or I could slack off and fly 9 days in a month with no vacation, but get min FO pay of 70 hrs.
Worst QOL: CA on reserve gets old quick. 18 work days per month. Every month. Rolled days off and flown into FDOs. Lots of used short calls and field standbys. Ever changing circadian rhythms. I probably could have added a couple hours of pay by volunteering for FSB or SC but I didn’t because I nearly always got used. I probably could have aggressively picked up trips and made > 73 hrs but I didn’t. And there ain’t nothing like driving to the airport at 9pm, getting called at 1030pm and released to go home, try to sleep, and show for a 10 am 4 day. Or landing from a redeye, getting called at 3pm and told to show at 430 am. I’ve had 1 day trips turn to 5 day trips. “Visiting Reserve” is the 7th level of hell.
Junior CA line holder QOL is a mixed bag. In all honesty, I am mostly able to avoid the trips that I really don’t want (BWI redeyes). But I get a ton of low credit 4 day weekend trips and a ton of extended 24-36 hour layovers in places like MEM or MAF. Every single weekend. Every single weekend. All weekend long. All the time for the next several years - I’m totally not complaining - just stating the obvious. And I get 89.9 hour lines whether I want them or not, which leaves me little wiggle room for trip trading or premium pick ups. Looking at the monthly PBS awards, that trend is likely to continue till I get a couple THOUSAND numbers more senior.
In spite of all this I’m incredibly happy as a CA and I really do enjoy the left seat. But I urge those 1-5 year folks to think carefully because they’re potentially upgrading to be on CA reserve for several years and then be a junior line holder for several more. Within that timeframe, they’re giving up those years of widebody FO or senior narrowbody FO - both of those categories have their advantages.
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I formerly was a senior 737 FO (10-15%).
Best pay: line holder CA. It’s impossible to fly less than 90 hours so pay is great. It’s easy to break slightly over 100-110 credit hours. Junior line holder CA is kinda like flying all your FO trips at 50% add pay.
Best QOL: senior FO. As a senior FO I could turn a week of vacation into 2+ weeks off. I could senior man and on average, my pay was about that same as a junior/reserve CA. But unlike a junior CA I never worried about getting any specific days or even weeks off. I could hustle and make junior CA pay or I could slack off and fly 9 days in a month with no vacation, but get min FO pay of 70 hrs.
Worst QOL: CA on reserve gets old quick. 18 work days per month. Every month. Rolled days off and flown into FDOs. Lots of used short calls and field standbys. Ever changing circadian rhythms. I probably could have added a couple hours of pay by volunteering for FSB or SC but I didn’t because I nearly always got used. I probably could have aggressively picked up trips and made > 73 hrs but I didn’t. And there ain’t nothing like driving to the airport at 9pm, getting called at 1030pm and released to go home, try to sleep, and show for a 10 am 4 day. Or landing from a redeye, getting called at 3pm and told to show at 430 am. I’ve had 1 day trips turn to 5 day trips. “Visiting Reserve” is the 7th level of hell.
Junior CA line holder QOL is a mixed bag. In all honesty, I am mostly able to avoid the trips that I really don’t want (BWI redeyes). But I get a ton of low credit 4 day weekend trips and a ton of extended 24-36 hour layovers in places like MEM or MAF. Every single weekend. Every single weekend. All weekend long. All the time for the next several years - I’m totally not complaining - just stating the obvious. And I get 89.9 hour lines whether I want them or not, which leaves me little wiggle room for trip trading or premium pick ups. Looking at the monthly PBS awards, that trend is likely to continue till I get a couple THOUSAND numbers more senior.
In spite of all this I’m incredibly happy as a CA and I really do enjoy the left seat. But I urge those 1-5 year folks to think carefully because they’re potentially upgrading to be on CA reserve for several years and then be a junior line holder for several more. Within that timeframe, they’re giving up those years of widebody FO or senior narrowbody FO - both of those categories have their advantages.
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I'll echo what others have said. Thank you for the write up!
#32
Airplanes
Joined APC: May 2022
Posts: 119
Is 18 days flying pretty common on The EWR 756? That sound like it would get tiring in a hurry.
#33
plus European trips leave at night and get back mid-day on the third day. I live local, so it’s not that bad. 18 days is 18 paid days.
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