Schedule Flexibility & QOL at United
05-17-2022, 08:43 AM
#23
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Joined APC: May 2022
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Normal Scheduled Lines
Hello, I was curious about the daily schedule at United.
1. Is the normal duty day maxed out? as in 10-12 hours duty?
2. Is the flight time maxed out 7-8 flight hours?
3. How many legs a day?
I worked regionals and 11 hour duty days was the norm, with low total flight time.
Any information is helpful, just trying to understand the quality of life when on the line at work.
1. Is the normal duty day maxed out? as in 10-12 hours duty?
2. Is the flight time maxed out 7-8 flight hours?
3. How many legs a day?
I worked regionals and 11 hour duty days was the norm, with low total flight time.
Any information is helpful, just trying to understand the quality of life when on the line at work.
05-17-2022, 08:57 AM
#24
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Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 1,111
Hello, I was curious about the daily schedule at United.
1. Is the normal duty day maxed out? as in 10-12 hours duty?
2. Is the flight time maxed out 7-8 flight hours?
3. How many legs a day?
I worked regionals and 11 hour duty days was the norm, with low total flight time.
Any information is helpful, just trying to understand the quality of life when on the line at work.
1. Is the normal duty day maxed out? as in 10-12 hours duty?
2. Is the flight time maxed out 7-8 flight hours?
3. How many legs a day?
I worked regionals and 11 hour duty days was the norm, with low total flight time.
Any information is helpful, just trying to understand the quality of life when on the line at work.
05-17-2022, 12:54 PM
#25
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Joined APC: May 2006
Position: 737 CA
Posts: 2,576
Hello, I was curious about the daily schedule at United.
1. Is the normal duty day maxed out? as in 10-12 hours duty?
2. Is the flight time maxed out 7-8 flight hours?
3. How many legs a day?
I worked regionals and 11 hour duty days was the norm, with low total flight time.
Any information is helpful, just trying to understand the quality of life when on the line at work.
1. Is the normal duty day maxed out? as in 10-12 hours duty?
2. Is the flight time maxed out 7-8 flight hours?
3. How many legs a day?
I worked regionals and 11 hour duty days was the norm, with low total flight time.
Any information is helpful, just trying to understand the quality of life when on the line at work.
Newark 756.
It will vary based on base and fleet.
05-17-2022, 02:47 PM
#26
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2021
Posts: 700
Hello, I was curious about the daily schedule at United.
1. Is the normal duty day maxed out? as in 10-12 hours duty?
2. Is the flight time maxed out 7-8 flight hours?
3. How many legs a day?
I worked regionals and 11 hour duty days was the norm, with low total flight time.
Any information is helpful, just trying to understand the quality of life when on the line at work.
1. Is the normal duty day maxed out? as in 10-12 hours duty?
2. Is the flight time maxed out 7-8 flight hours?
3. How many legs a day?
I worked regionals and 11 hour duty days was the norm, with low total flight time.
Any information is helpful, just trying to understand the quality of life when on the line at work.
05-17-2022, 03:17 PM
#28
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Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 216
I’m a reserve/bottom line holder, and the trips I get are mostly 21 hour four days with a 30ish hour overnight somewhere. Two or three legs a day usually. I do a few red eyes, but I like it cause I usually get home earlier. I haven’t been here long and don’t know if my experience is historically typical or indicative of future experience
05-18-2022, 11:55 AM
#29
On Reserve
Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 18
I’m a junior 737 CA - about 73% overall in domicile, about 90% of line holders (737 DCA), hired / furloughed in 2008.
I formerly was a senior 737 FO (10-15%).
Best pay: line holder CA. It’s impossible to fly less than 90 hours so pay is great. It’s easy to break slightly over 100-110 credit hours. Junior line holder CA is kinda like flying all your FO trips at 50% add pay.
Best QOL: senior FO. As a senior FO I could turn a week of vacation into 2+ weeks off. I could senior man and on average, my pay was about that same as a junior/reserve CA. But unlike a junior CA I never worried about getting any specific days or even weeks off. I could hustle and make junior CA pay or I could slack off and fly 9 days in a month with no vacation, but get min FO pay of 70 hrs.
Worst QOL: CA on reserve gets old quick. 18 work days per month. Every month. Rolled days off and flown into FDOs. Lots of used short calls and field standbys. Ever changing circadian rhythms. I probably could have added a couple hours of pay by volunteering for FSB or SC but I didn’t because I nearly always got used. I probably could have aggressively picked up trips and made > 73 hrs but I didn’t. And there ain’t nothing like driving to the airport at 9pm, getting called at 1030pm and released to go home, try to sleep, and show for a 10 am 4 day. Or landing from a redeye, getting called at 3pm and told to show at 430 am. I’ve had 1 day trips turn to 5 day trips. “Visiting Reserve” is the 7th level of hell.
Junior CA line holder QOL is a mixed bag. In all honesty, I am mostly able to avoid the trips that I really don’t want (BWI redeyes). But I get a ton of low credit 4 day weekend trips and a ton of extended 24-36 hour layovers in places like MEM or MAF. Every single weekend. Every single weekend. All weekend long. All the time for the next several years - I’m totally not complaining - just stating the obvious. And I get 89.9 hour lines whether I want them or not, which leaves me little wiggle room for trip trading or premium pick ups. Looking at the monthly PBS awards, that trend is likely to continue till I get a couple THOUSAND numbers more senior.
In spite of all this I’m incredibly happy as a CA and I really do enjoy the left seat. But I urge those 1-5 year folks to think carefully because they’re potentially upgrading to be on CA reserve for several years and then be a junior line holder for several more. Within that timeframe, they’re giving up those years of widebody FO or senior narrowbody FO - both of those categories have their advantages.
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I formerly was a senior 737 FO (10-15%).
Best pay: line holder CA. It’s impossible to fly less than 90 hours so pay is great. It’s easy to break slightly over 100-110 credit hours. Junior line holder CA is kinda like flying all your FO trips at 50% add pay.
Best QOL: senior FO. As a senior FO I could turn a week of vacation into 2+ weeks off. I could senior man and on average, my pay was about that same as a junior/reserve CA. But unlike a junior CA I never worried about getting any specific days or even weeks off. I could hustle and make junior CA pay or I could slack off and fly 9 days in a month with no vacation, but get min FO pay of 70 hrs.
Worst QOL: CA on reserve gets old quick. 18 work days per month. Every month. Rolled days off and flown into FDOs. Lots of used short calls and field standbys. Ever changing circadian rhythms. I probably could have added a couple hours of pay by volunteering for FSB or SC but I didn’t because I nearly always got used. I probably could have aggressively picked up trips and made > 73 hrs but I didn’t. And there ain’t nothing like driving to the airport at 9pm, getting called at 1030pm and released to go home, try to sleep, and show for a 10 am 4 day. Or landing from a redeye, getting called at 3pm and told to show at 430 am. I’ve had 1 day trips turn to 5 day trips. “Visiting Reserve” is the 7th level of hell.
Junior CA line holder QOL is a mixed bag. In all honesty, I am mostly able to avoid the trips that I really don’t want (BWI redeyes). But I get a ton of low credit 4 day weekend trips and a ton of extended 24-36 hour layovers in places like MEM or MAF. Every single weekend. Every single weekend. All weekend long. All the time for the next several years - I’m totally not complaining - just stating the obvious. And I get 89.9 hour lines whether I want them or not, which leaves me little wiggle room for trip trading or premium pick ups. Looking at the monthly PBS awards, that trend is likely to continue till I get a couple THOUSAND numbers more senior.
In spite of all this I’m incredibly happy as a CA and I really do enjoy the left seat. But I urge those 1-5 year folks to think carefully because they’re potentially upgrading to be on CA reserve for several years and then be a junior line holder for several more. Within that timeframe, they’re giving up those years of widebody FO or senior narrowbody FO - both of those categories have their advantages.
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