Max 10
03-30-2022, 11:49 AM
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I wish they would, but speaking with a new hire coming from AS, they said Alaska got their MAXes for 8 million. There's no way Airbus could match come close to matching that on a 321.
03-30-2022, 11:57 AM
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Boeing will get an extension and get the 10 certified. It might be delayed 6 months or so, but we’ll probably be flying super guppies before the XLR is ready for delivery. The good news is that we only have 250+ of them ordered.🙄
03-30-2022, 11:57 AM
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Have there been any accidents specifically attributed to the panel? I flew C130s in the USAF, and yes we had an engineer but the 737 panel really isn’t a big deal. Once you learn it that’s it, I don’t get the issue. The Max 10 not having EICAS should have no bearing on its cert, and the requirement was a classic knee jerk regulation free-for-all in response to untrained pilots not following procedure and crashing the other Max airplanes. In other words, “WE MUST DO SOMETHING!!”
if I recall correctly the panel was specifically not updated because the primary customer (SW) requested it be as close to the NG panel as possible, thus making an easier transition and less training required. Either way, the panel not having EICAS is simply not a safety issue, and makes almost no impact once a pilot learns the 737 panel of any type. My opinion obviously.
if I recall correctly the panel was specifically not updated because the primary customer (SW) requested it be as close to the NG panel as possible, thus making an easier transition and less training required. Either way, the panel not having EICAS is simply not a safety issue, and makes almost no impact once a pilot learns the 737 panel of any type. My opinion obviously.
03-30-2022, 12:01 PM
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03-30-2022, 12:04 PM
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A annoyingly loud intermittent horn once already in the air for a while probably isn’t a takeoff configuration warning. Don’t know if even EICAS would have helped that degree of situational awareness.
03-30-2022, 03:01 PM
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Are you joking? You’ve never heard an erroneous clacker, shaker, GPWS warning or something else that won’t stop in flight? That’s no so uncommon. I don’t know what their training was but am pretty sure most pilots can interpret an EICAS.
03-30-2022, 03:20 PM
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It was meant to be tongue in cheek to a degree. Yes EICAS is nice, but when something like a loud intermittent horn is going off, perhaps people should stop and look around to figure out why. The intermittent horn is either a takeoff configuration warning on the ground, or a cabin altitude warning in flight. If only those guys had a big round dial with differential pressure and cabin altitude right over their heads when the horn went off in flight to enable them to verify if the horn was legit or erroneous……. The 737 definitely isn’t the most advanced or automated plane out there, but it isn’t exactly that hard to manage either.
03-30-2022, 03:27 PM
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It was meant to be tongue in cheek to a degree. Yes EICAS is nice, but when something like a loud intermittent horn is going off, perhaps people should stop and look around to figure out why. The intermittent horn is either a takeoff configuration warning on the ground, or a cabin altitude warning in flight. If only those guys had a big round dial with differential pressure and cabin altitude right over their heads when the horn went off in flight to enable them to verify if the horn was legit or erroneous……. The 737 definitely isn’t the most advanced or automated plane out there, but it isn’t exactly that hard to manage either.
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