New Hires to be offered Widebody FO
03-26-2022, 11:08 PM
#121
Banned
Joined APC: Jun 2021
Posts: 794
Many narrow body categories have gotten less commutable over the last few years. The pairings are full of four+ leg days. Lots of trips have super long duty periods three out of four days with a 30 hour overnight thrown in so the trip is still unproductive. Overnights that aren’t 30 hours have gotten much shorter. Many min rest layovers. Reserve levels (even on wide bodies) are lower than they used to be so schedule manipulation is much more difficult to almost impossible.
07-12-2022, 12:10 PM
#122
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2022
Posts: 15
“WB are starting to come back since there were unfilleds in the last vacancy. Drop for the class beginning 7/12 is:
320 SFO, LAX, EWR, DCA
737 SFO, LAX, EWR
777 SFO, EWR
787 EWR“
This is last class offering, my question is how long would it take a new hire to get enough hours to get off probation in a WB?
320 SFO, LAX, EWR, DCA
737 SFO, LAX, EWR
777 SFO, EWR
787 EWR“
This is last class offering, my question is how long would it take a new hire to get enough hours to get off probation in a WB?
07-12-2022, 12:12 PM
#123
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 255
“WB are starting to come back since there were unfilleds in the last vacancy. Drop for the class beginning 7/12 is:
320 SFO, LAX, EWR, DCA
737 SFO, LAX, EWR
777 SFO, EWR
787 EWR“
This is last class offering, my question is how long would it take a new hire to get enough hours to get off probation?
320 SFO, LAX, EWR, DCA
737 SFO, LAX, EWR
777 SFO, EWR
787 EWR“
This is last class offering, my question is how long would it take a new hire to get enough hours to get off probation?
07-12-2022, 12:13 PM
#124
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 2,525
“WB are starting to come back since there were unfilleds in the last vacancy. Drop for the class beginning 7/12 is:
320 SFO, LAX, EWR, DCA
737 SFO, LAX, EWR
777 SFO, EWR
787 EWR“
This is last class offering, my question is how long would it take a new hire to get enough hours to get off probation?
320 SFO, LAX, EWR, DCA
737 SFO, LAX, EWR
777 SFO, EWR
787 EWR“
This is last class offering, my question is how long would it take a new hire to get enough hours to get off probation?
07-12-2022, 01:59 PM
#125
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 95
Also, time spent waiting for IOE (for some fleets, currently can be 60+ days) does NOT count towards the 165 days.
07-12-2022, 03:03 PM
#128
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 95
From a PDR response:
We get this PDR quite often so I want to ensure everyone is calibrated to the length of probation. Currently with the long wait for IOE and a few additional scheduling codes that did not exist before, probation has been running longer than normal. The length of probation is completion of 12 bid periods (Includes training) AND 165 days of work. Medical, military, awaiting IOE do not count towards the 165 days. If a probationary pilot wants to know when they exit probation, they can contact their CPO to do some forensics on days of work counted.
We get this PDR quite often so I want to ensure everyone is calibrated to the length of probation. Currently with the long wait for IOE and a few additional scheduling codes that did not exist before, probation has been running longer than normal. The length of probation is completion of 12 bid periods (Includes training) AND 165 days of work. Medical, military, awaiting IOE do not count towards the 165 days. If a probationary pilot wants to know when they exit probation, they can contact their CPO to do some forensics on days of work counted.
07-12-2022, 03:11 PM
#129
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 2,525
From a PDR response:
We get this PDR quite often so I want to ensure everyone is calibrated to the length of probation. Currently with the long wait for IOE and a few additional scheduling codes that did not exist before, probation has been running longer than normal. The length of probation is completion of 12 bid periods (Includes training) AND 165 days of work. Medical, military, awaiting IOE do not count towards the 165 days. If a probationary pilot wants to know when they exit probation, they can contact their CPO to do some forensics on days of work counted.
We get this PDR quite often so I want to ensure everyone is calibrated to the length of probation. Currently with the long wait for IOE and a few additional scheduling codes that did not exist before, probation has been running longer than normal. The length of probation is completion of 12 bid periods (Includes training) AND 165 days of work. Medical, military, awaiting IOE do not count towards the 165 days. If a probationary pilot wants to know when they exit probation, they can contact their CPO to do some forensics on days of work counted.
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