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Old 06-23-2021, 02:31 PM
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Of course there is a pilot shortage. That is why the company decided to buy a flight school and start Aviate. They can now make money charging the next generation of pilots to learn how to fly. Then have them on the hook for a few years of low pay and crappy work rules during a time in there careers where they are afraid to speak out.
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Old 06-23-2021, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
Where are people making 35k to fly an RJ? Apart from Mesa or GoJets...
65k a year as a 2nd year fo flying RJs
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Old 06-24-2021, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JurgenKlopp
Hannity’s go to line. Very impressive.
Enjoy your sky high inflation, and commensurate wage depression. Next year is forecast for 15%. $5/gallon gas is a hell of a lot better than mean tweets!

We’re gonna need a hell of a contract raise just to keep up with this.
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Old 06-24-2021, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Enjoy your sky high inflation, and commensurate wage depression. Next year is forecast for 15%. $5/gallon gas is a hell of a lot better than mean tweets!

We’re gonna need a hell of a contract raise just to keep up with this.
United Airlines Pilot contracts.....

Contract 2000 "Moonshot" under Clinton
Contract 2003 "Bankrupt POS" under Bush
Contract 2012 "Cha Ching $$$" under Obama
Extension 2016 "me too $$$" under Obama
Pandemic Relief "half my pay LOA" under Trump
Contract 2022? "Winning- Again" under Smokin Joe Biden

Just some historic perspective. All coincidental I'm sure.
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Old 06-25-2021, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by guppie
United Airlines Pilot contracts.....

Contract 2000 "Moonshot" under Clinton
Contract 2003 "Bankrupt POS" under Bush
Contract 2012 "Cha Ching $$$" under Obama
Extension 2016 "me too $$$" under Obama
Pandemic Relief "half my pay LOA" under Trump
Contract 2022? "Winning- Again" under Smokin Joe Biden

Just some historic perspective. All coincidental I'm sure.
If you research the tax/commerce/business polices of those Presidents you will find they are all rooted in HIGHER TAXES.

The business people who create jobs do so in economic enviornments and climates that favor growth as well as consumer spending.

High Taxes will impede recreational travelers and business travelers from spending money and curtail economic growth.

Just about anything coming out of the Pandemic will be recovery and delayed expansion.

I think Clueless Joe would be wise to keep his tax grab plan in his pocket.

The real big story is our industry has suffered greatly in terms of pilot compensation ever since Jimmy Carter signed the Airline Deregualtion Act of 1978. Ever since then, our pilots have had to crawl, scrap, scrape, and beg for any improvements in terms of quality of life, dignity of the profession, and spending/earning power.
The economic policies of Carter, Clinton, and Obama have been very bad. NAFTA was a big job killer in N. America.

I don't think you are as smart as you hope to be.

In simple terms. The two things all democrats seem to have in common is big government and high taxes. Those two things go against free enterprise and impede the American dream, and they impede economic growth over all.

If we have 16 years of consecutive Republican governance we can really right the wrongs of Obama and Clinton and start re-shaping the new world order and compete internationally. Too many jobs lost under Obama and Clinton. Very sad really.

China, Russia, NK, and Iran all want a democrat. Why? Because they are weak both from an economic competition stand point and a geo-political security stand point. I would gladly vote Republican just so i can curtail the activities of those 4 dangerous nation-states. After all, we now know that the DNC colluded with Russia, and that should be enough to turn off all honest to goodness Americans from the DNC and have them forever look to Constitutional Conservatism.

Democrat policy is Anti-American. Republican Policy puts America first.
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Old 06-25-2021, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by baseball
If you research the tax/commerce/business polices of those Presidents you will find they are all rooted in HIGHER TAXES.

The business people who create jobs do so in economic enviornments and climates that favor growth as well as consumer spending.

High Taxes will impede recreational travelers and business travelers from spending money and curtail economic growth.

Just about anything coming out of the Pandemic will be recovery and delayed expansion.

I think Clueless Joe would be wise to keep his tax grab plan in his pocket.

The real big story is our industry has suffered greatly in terms of pilot compensation ever since Jimmy Carter signed the Airline Deregualtion Act of 1978. Ever since then, our pilots have had to crawl, scrap, scrape, and beg for any improvements in terms of quality of life, dignity of the profession, and spending/earning power.
The economic policies of Carter, Clinton, and Obama have been very bad. NAFTA was a big job killer in N. America.

I don't think you are as smart as you hope to be.

In simple terms. The two things all democrats seem to have in common is big government and high taxes. Those two things go against free enterprise and impede the American dream, and they impede economic growth over all.

If we have 16 years of consecutive Republican governance we can really right the wrongs of Obama and Clinton and start re-shaping the new world order and compete internationally. Too many jobs lost under Obama and Clinton. Very sad really.

China, Russia, NK, and Iran all want a democrat. Why? Because they are weak both from an economic competition stand point and a geo-political security stand point. I would gladly vote Republican just so i can curtail the activities of those 4 dangerous nation-states. After all, we now know that the DNC colluded with Russia, and that should be enough to turn off all honest to goodness Americans from the DNC and have them forever look to Constitutional Conservatism.

Democrat policy is Anti-American. Republican Policy puts America first.
Yeah. Yeah. We've heard it all before. But I like facts.

Contract 2000 came during the Clinton presidency, along with the greatest bull market of our lifetimes.

Contract 2012 and the 2016 Extension came during Obama's presidency, along with the 2nd greatest bull market of our lifetimes.

I'm guessing Contract 2022 under Smokin Joe Biden will not disappoint. Cheers.

https://www.kiplinger.com/investing/...e-stock-market
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Old 06-25-2021, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by guppie
Yeah. Yeah. We've heard it all before. But I like facts.

Contract 2000 came during the Clinton presidency, along with the greatest bull market of our lifetimes.

Contract 2012 and the 2016 Extension came during Obama's presidency, along with the 2nd greatest bull market of our lifetimes.

I'm guessing Contract 2022 under Smokin Joe Biden will not disappoint. Cheers.
Maybe look at who controlled Congress during those periods, too. Congress, arguably, has a bigger affect on passed legislation than does the President.

With an opposition, or even divided, Congress, a President can't implement their economic agenda. The economy booms when there's a divided government which means that relatively few changes come D.C.
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Old 06-25-2021, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry in TN
Maybe look at who controlled Congress during those periods, too. Congress, arguably, has a bigger affect on passed legislation than does the President.

With an opposition, or even divided, Congress, a President can't implement their economic agenda. The economy booms when there's a divided government which means that relatively few changes come D.C.
100% agree. Divided government with a labor friendly president. That's what's worked in the past, and it's what's here... now. But the market runs during the Clinton/Obama years. WOW. Historic $$$
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Old 06-25-2021, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Wingedbeast
stick to flying airplanes.

ha! OK. The facts speak for themselves. Already cashed in BIG time on those Dem presidential runs. 401K steroid juice. Don't you worry, myself and 81M other Americans put you in a great position for Contract 2022. That'll continue the great contractual gains during Dem presidents. Watch and Enjoy.

WASHINGTON – Today, President Joe Biden announced his intent to nominate the following 10 individuals to serve on key Administration boards and commissions.
  • Deirdre Hamilton for Member, National Mediation Board

https://teamsterair.org/node/2315

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Old 06-25-2021, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by guppie
ha! OK. The facts speak for themselves. Already cashed in BIG time on those Dem presidential runs. 401K steroid juice. Don't you worry, myself and 81M other Americans put you in a great position for Contract 2022. That'll continue the great contractual gains during Dem presidents. Watch and Enjoy.

WASHINGTON – Today, President Joe Biden announced his intent to nominate the following 10 individuals to serve on key Administration boards and commissions.
  • Deirdre Hamilton for Member, National Mediation Board

https://teamsterair.org/node/2315

When considering the heavy commerce tilt of the RLA, having a union friendly NMB puts management in a position to actually negotiate on better terms for the unions.

That would be my first guess…
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