Bluesteal

These are very different comparisons... Sticking a needle in your body and injecting pharma drugs against your will not knowing how your body will react or not knowing the true longterm effects is the definition of draconian. This is not one size fits all, everybody is different and have different types of immune systems and blood types. Peeing in a cup to make sure you aren't smoking crack on an overnight is the definition of common sense and doesn't have any possible serious side effects to your health. We are beyond common sense at this point and where do we draw the line?? What is next down the road?? a microchip implanted in our right hand to buy and sell?! We are all going down the wrong path and we need to distinguish the difference in common sense and a draconian approach and draw that line in between the two. The problem with common sense in this world is that it is NOT common LOL

flightmedic01

Common sense will NOT be tolerated!! In fact, it will be punished.

Chuck D

cool. now do that for mandatory school vaccines and SCOTUS ruling on vaccine mandates. oh also do it for individual nation requirements. are you gonna become a domestic only bro when you can’t accomplish your job if it crosses a border?

Bluesteal

Another terrible comparison again.... Your thinking is why we are all losing everything. And that was a poor court ruling. If the SCOTUS actually looked at the founders original intent of individual sovereignty then they would have ruled correctly. Legislating from the bench is why we are here today. We should not have mandatory anything, they literally for 75yrs normalize things that go against individual sovereignty and now we think its ok.. the fact is when we dont follow a constitution/bill of rights, what are we supposed to follow? We are just in uncharted waters. So, now the unelected corporations have now taken the sovereignty and rule over the individual. We have to get this mentality out of our head that the corporations can do ANYTHING they want, the constitution was NOT for corporations to rule over the individual. Individual sovereignty rules over all. But, we gave it to them through submission... I dont want to hear 5yrs from now everyone complaining that they can't do a dam thing without permission through your cell phone via a vaccine passport/digital healthpass. When the whole world goes on the digital healthpass which is being rolled out all over europe, asia and we will get it too, its more of a challenge in the US than the rest of the world, but we will eventually get it here, that digital healthpass is not a 2 weeks to "slow the spread" type of thing. These healthpasses will be permanent. We literally handed over our rights/sovereignty to authority on a silver platter due to fear and thinking like Chuck D, Its our own fault.

And, I will quit if I have to, I've always had a plan B for 10+ yrs anyway because of furlough or whatever because I dont like being dependent. This is exactly why you never want to be dependent on a job. Its been years since Ive heard anyone ever talk about "entrepreneurship" and starting businesses, having new ideas because they want dependence and when you are dependent then they got you by the balls. NO JAB, NO JOB. NO JAB, NO BENEFITS. I have many investments in businesses, real estate that produce monthly cashflow. Everyone should have a plan B. I'll quit if I have to. The question for you should be where is your line? where and when do you draw the line? or will you just keep submitting yourself to authority. I saw some people compare us to NAZI Germany a few pages back... we are not NAZI Germany now, but if we continue to submit and submit and rollover, then 5yrs from now we may have to bring this NAZI Germany conversation back up again. History always repeats boys and girls and america aint immune.

But, there is actually some good news... its not all negative. We are starting to see an awakening and our country is starting to work as it was intended to do. Some states are now exercising the 10th amendment and passing legislation to ban vaccine passports, ban "mandatory" vaccines/masks in schools. Fed court rulings against lockdowns, CDC overreach, etc. It took long enough, but there are some positive things happening and I am hoping we can go back in the right direction and start bringing back individual sovereignty again. The only way this happens is on the state and local level.

Bottomline: Get the vaccine or not get the vaccine, but it stops there... NO to MANDATORY vaccine passports/digital healthpass apps on your cell phone to enter a store,restaurant, plane, cruise,train, grocery store because that will be here to stay.

Grumpyaviator

What is the agenda behind vaccinating those who’ve been infected? There is no sound reason to do so. Do the stakeholders have interests beyond health and safety?

Firefly899

Whats utterly scary here is the mental health crisis we have in this country when it comes to anxiety. I mean this is all off the hook!!!!

What a way to show how our population is gonna respond when China shows up on our shores.

Larry in TN

An unvaccinated United pilot died last week from COVID. He had COVID earlier in the pandemic and recovered. He, at least, could have used some extra protection.

GolferNJ

Is your assumption that you are the one with common sense? Just like SA, the first person to lose it is the last to know.

GolferNJ

Your argument makes no sense. You say you don’t have to get vaccinated because the needs of you as an individual outweigh the needs of society (and our jobs). And yet if someone want to sit in their room and smoke crack that is an outrage. You are threatening all of us if you bring COVID to us and/or allow an Echo, Foxtrot variant to emerge. You’re way more dangerous than the crack smoker.

ERAUAV8TR

Think we are a few weeks from mandatory vaccines. Thank GOD! Looking forward to getting this behind us and the variants.