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Old 05-16-2021, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Don’t worry. I don’t need protection from you or your wife/kids for a virus that has a tiny fraction of a percent chance of killing me at my age. But keep thinking you’re saving the world big guy.
I too am young & healthy enough to have little fear of a severe fight with the virus. Unlike some here, however, I also have little fear of the vaccine, unsubstantiated ghost stories about DNA mutations, or the like.

Saving the world? No. But offering what protection I can to the elderly & immuno-compromised people in my life was a no-brainer.
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Old 05-17-2021, 12:09 AM
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Someone I fly with doesn't want to get vaccinated? Fine, nothing I or anyone else says is likely to change their mind. Best case scenario: nothing happens. Worst case: I get a seniority bump.
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Old 05-17-2021, 05:16 AM
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This is going to be a mess legally. Some folks cannot take the shot due to medical reasons and will need to be accommodated without disclosing their medical records. ALPA is like having a public defender you’ll be convicted 97% of the time. This is a major development to the workforce going forward if they are able to find legal footing to keep it in place going forward.
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Old 05-17-2021, 05:27 AM
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Has UA mandated that any current employee get the vaccine yet? …or are we still just taking about the possibility due to DAL new hires needing it?
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Old 05-17-2021, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
Yes, vaccines block most transmission of COVID-19

I mean, it literally is, but I have no delusions of the anti-vax crowd ever accepting that.
Funny how the various health organizations just a month ago were screaming that it did not prevent transmission and to keep wearing those masks!

Thats the problem, between the hysteria and the politicization and the breathless clown show that is the press, it’s impossible to get a straight story.

What is “National Geographic” going to have to say about the gain of function bat virus research that was being conducted in Wuhan? Or are they to compromised by the CCP to accurately report on it too?

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Old 05-17-2021, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
Funny how the various health organizations just a month ago were screaming that it did not prevent transmission and to keep wearing those masks!

Thats the problem, between the hysteria and the politicization and the breathless clown show that is the press, it’s impossible to get a straight story.

What is “National Geographic” going to have to say about the gain of function bat virus research that was being conducted in Wuhan? Or are they to compromised by the CCP to accurately report on it too?
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Old 05-17-2021, 07:24 AM
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Has UA mandated that any current employee get the vaccine yet? …or are we still just taking about the possibility due to DAL new hires needing it?
I think delta is the only one but Kirby was quoted in an article saying that United would follow the leadership of other airlines if they go in the direction of vaccinating employees.
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Old 05-17-2021, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
Funny how the various health organizations just a month ago were screaming that it did not prevent transmission and to keep wearing those masks!
More accurately, they were stating - not screaming - that there wasn't enough data yet. Data doesn't just pop up like a mushroom. Standards have to be established, info needs to be collected and vetted over a period that's going to be more than just one cycle of infections, and conclusions have to be made. But yeah let's prefer that they shoot first ask questions later.

They're dealing with a worldwide event in real time, and a virus that is a moving target (various strains), with various age groups that can and can't be vaccinated yet, and with a media and political knee-jerk reaction that means any declaration that might later need to be walked back would cause an even bigger uproar than the decision point where the CDC states masks are no longer required for the vaccinated.
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Old 05-17-2021, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by StallWeezy
You mean the easiest document to forge ever? Ah, delta...you crack me up.
Your logbook is actually even easier to falsify than a vaccine card. Doesn't mean you'd want to get caught pencil-whipping that either.
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Old 05-17-2021, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
Funny how the various health organizations just a month ago were screaming that it did not prevent transmission and to keep wearing those masks!
Their messaging really sucked and further degraded public confidence in those institutions, but fundamentally what they were trying to do was not make promises about vaccine performance until they had the real-world data to CYA. Bureaucrats can't get in trouble for being conservative , but they can get in trouble for jumping the gun. (it's LEADERS, if you can manage to find one, who make hard decisions and take risks).

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Thats the problem, between the hysteria and the politicization and the breathless clown show that is the press, it’s impossible to get a straight story.
Yes, and too many people actually enjoy the hysterical posturing and virtue signalling. Like my neighbor with the air-horn (used to warn off people who violate her covid ADIZ, on the sidewalk or in the grocery store). Although even in my very liberal neighborhood in CA, I'm seeing a lot fewer people outdoors with masks lately.

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What is “National Geographic” going to have to say about the gain of function bat virus research that was being conducted in Wuhan? Or are they to compromised by the CCP to accurately report on it too?
Anything new on that?
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