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Old 06-03-2021, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
I have yet to fly with a new pilot that didn’t do a fantastic job, I wouldn’t say we are “losing” at all.
I don't think any of us have flown with the new crop of diversity pilots. They don't exist yet except in the imagination of HR, SK, and OBAP.

BTW, it's not about "doing a fantastic job." It's mostly about paying your dues to get here and earning your way into the profession. if you "earned your way" into the profession by being a certain race or gender, then you really didn't earn it. It was given to you.
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Old 06-03-2021, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
and based on incident/accident occurrences among the majors, I’d say we’re winnng.
The NTSB Report of the hard landing in EWR with the underqualified LOE CK Airman isn't published still. That wasn't what I would call a win. That airplane can't be re-used. That's a hull loss "statistically speaking of course."
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Old 06-03-2021, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Oletimer
The NTSB Report of the hard landing in EWR with the underqualified LOE CK Airman isn't published still. That wasn't what I would call a win. That airplane can't be re-used. That's a hull loss "statistically speaking of course."
What about our new hire that was killed by diversity? Winning?
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Old 06-03-2021, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Bestglide
What about our new hire that was killed by diversity? Winning?
Are you referring to the Atlas crash?
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Old 06-03-2021, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
Are you referring to the Atlas crash?
yes………….I am
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Old 06-03-2021, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Oletimer
I don't think any of us have flown with the new crop of diversity pilots. They don't exist yet except in the imagination of HR, SK, and OBAP.

BTW, it's not about "doing a fantastic job." It's mostly about paying your dues to get here and earning your way into the profession. if you "earned your way" into the profession by being a certain race or gender, then you really didn't earn it. It was given to you.
How does that apply to the guy who got hired at 21 with 2000 hours because his father was a check airman?
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Old 06-03-2021, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
How does that apply to the guy who got hired at 21 with 2000 hours because his father was a check airman?
There has to be at least 3 or 4 of those guys in the system.
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Old 06-04-2021, 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Oletimer
The NTSB Report of the hard landing in EWR with the underqualified LOE CK Airman isn't published still. That wasn't what I would call a win. That airplane can't be re-used. That's a hull loss "statistically speaking of course."
Of course, that accident would never have happened if the check airman was a man. Woman makes a mistake, she's under qualified. You make a mistake, then every excuse in the book applies. Again, this thread is a great example of the reason this program is needed. I can only hope that people who think like you are being removed from the hiring process.

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Old 06-04-2021, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by detpilot
I can only hope that people who think like you are being removed from the hiring process.

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This is such a weird thing to say. You literally have never met the person you’re talking to. And yet you have summed them up so completely that you have determined they don’t even deserve the job for which they have been hired by the same hiring department you put so much faith into.
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Old 06-04-2021, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by NotMrNiceGuy
This is such a weird thing to say. You literally have never met the person you’re talking to. And yet you have summed them up so completely that you have determined they don’t even deserve the job for which they have been hired by the same hiring department you put so much faith into.
You mean like how so many here have never met any of the thousands of diverse potential UAL pilots whom they’ve judged as being unsafe & unfit, and suggested that they’re going to bend metal & kill passengers? I find it odd, too.
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