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Old 04-09-2021, 06:24 PM
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I’ve got two little girls at home. Ive given hundreds of flight deck tours to kids, and even if you add them up they wouldn’t be as impactful to a little girl as seeing someone that looks like them. Why do women only make up seven percent of airline pilots? It’s probably because many of them never saw it as an option when they were growing up. It’s the same for people of color. United is going to hire the most qualified candidates. It’s going to to take them longer to find them but I’m glad we’re the ones breaking the cycle.
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Old 04-09-2021, 06:30 PM
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In case anyone was wondering if ALPA would be a voice of reason....
https://www.flightglobal.com/strateg...qLyEA8.twitter
shame we can't cancel dues to them
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Old 04-09-2021, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluewaffle
I’ve got two little girls at home. Ive given hundreds of flight deck tours to kids, and even if you add them up they wouldn’t be as impactful to a little girl as seeing someone that looks like them. Why do women only make up seven percent of airline pilots? It’s probably because many of them never saw it as an option when they were growing up. It’s the same for people of color. United is going to hire the most qualified candidates. It’s going to to take them longer to find them but I’m glad we’re the ones breaking the cycle.
Wrong every female had the same opportunity as every male. every race had the same opportunity as whites. It comes down to drove dedication and exploration for career choices.

For example this white male came from a middle class background paid for it all myself every step of the way with no help and you want to know how many times I saw a flight deck? Well I'll put it this way day one of airline ground I found out they use a tiller to steer.
the fallacy of race and sex is a leftist distort in reality
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Old 04-09-2021, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ReadyRsv
If providing scholarships for people of color is racist, then consider me one.

I don't support race quotas and did not reference them in my post, so maybe go back and reread what I posted.

I'm not sure who YOU people is. I'm not running this program. I'm just able to read and understand english, unlike Baseball. (who should retire)
Scholarships, congressional and industry groups, hiring and admissions based on race.... IS RACISM its pretty easy to understand.
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Old 04-09-2021, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by XJ86
Wrong every female had the same opportunity as every male. every race had the same opportunity as whites. It comes down to drove dedication and exploration for career choices.

For example this white male came from a middle class background paid for it all myself every step of the way with no help and you want to know how many times I saw a flight deck? Well I'll put it this way day one of airline ground I found out they use a tiller to steer.
the fallacy of race and sex is a leftist distort in reality

thats cute. It’s not about opportunity. It’s about seeing themselves in a position that historically has been dominated by white men. This profession is accessible to everyone. You wouldn’t know it by peeking in the cockpit the last 30 years.
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Old 04-09-2021, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluewaffle
I’ve got two little girls at home. Ive given hundreds of flight deck tours to kids, and even if you add them up they wouldn’t be as impactful to a little girl as seeing someone that looks like them. Why do women only make up seven percent of airline pilots? It’s probably because many of them never saw it as an option when they were growing up. It’s the same for people of color. United is going to hire the most qualified candidates. It’s going to to take them longer to find them but I’m glad we’re the ones breaking the cycle.
Maybe they don't want to be pilots. Maybe let them find their own passion instead of being an "aviation dad" that tries to push their kids into flying like many do.
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Originally Posted by XJ86
Wrong every female had the same opportunity as every male. every race had the same opportunity as whites. It comes down to drove dedication and exploration for career choices.


Please point me to the white male who had to take a lawsuit all the way to the Supreme Court to get a job as an airline pilot. I have a lot of reading to do about him.

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Old 04-09-2021, 07:06 PM
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"Nobody said anything about lowering standards , and I wouldn’t be surprised if someone even took offense to that statement either, because it seems as though that due to the fact that one is a person of color they must be less qualified to hold the position at hand."

If United’s hiring practices in the past were not as egalitarian as the quota they are referencing for their future hiring, that means they engaged in discrimination of females and people of color all along. Since they are claiming that all of these new hires will either meet or exceed qualifications and merit, that means one of two things: My aforementioned statement is accurate, or they are changing AKA lowering standards and merit for hiring qualifications. It is impossible on its face for one or both of these statements to be untrue.

"Last I checked, there’s still a stigma about black people, if there wasn’t one wouldnt of mentioned anything about “lowering standards”."

Funny how you revert to "black people" when none of United's statement referenced black people in particular. Who is projecting stigmas, again? Fact of the matter is its inherent to lower standards and/or merit to make a concerted effort to hire 1/2 of your work force to meet a female/person of color quota. If there was no lowering of standards, the people of color and women would be there at United already. To suggest otherwise denies logic and is moronic.


"Vent on here I guess, because you never would do it in front of them because you’d scatter like roaches and we’d all be hearing crickets."

Why would anyone dare question a modern day, woke premise? So they could be branded a racist, misogynist white privileged bigot and be suspended without pay while they attend "sensitivity/diversity training, if they are not outright fired and have their career and life ruined?

There is nothing progressive or equal about this absurd PR move by United - and PR move is exactly what it is. Hiring people based on their genitalia or color of their skin is the exact opposite of progress and is fundamentally bigoted. To apply this type of logic and hiring practice to a major airline, well...there is only so much an AP can do.
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Old 04-09-2021, 07:16 PM
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I remember growing up making many trips to the hobby shop that used to be in the middle of town near the movie theater. We’d ride our bikes up there. It was full of model planes, rockets, cars, trains. It was Heavan to me and my pals. But it was a terrible place to meet girls.
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Old 04-09-2021, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Knotcher
Maybe they don't want to be pilots. Maybe let them find their own passion instead of being an "aviation dad" that tries to push their kids into flying like many do.
who said I was pushing them to be pilots?
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