New Vacancy Bid / Hiring
04-01-2021, 12:59 PM
#51
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: 787
Posts: 3,202
Day 1 you are a new United Pilot.......Day 2 you are not a new United pilot.
04-01-2021, 01:12 PM
#52
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 57
Yes, which is already covered by PSP anyways. When does a “new pilot” stop being a new pilot? This is critical because both comms said new pilots on property is directly tied to reduced work rules/pay. Will new pilots hired in may still be new pilots in October? What’s the definition? It’s not clear at all.
Got an official answer from a reputable source and the first thing said was “yeah we shoulda defined that better I’ll clarify” but the intent is as long as none of the new hires from this point forward are furloughed, the provisions of reduced pay are suspended. Refreshing to get a clear, concise, comforting answer rather then be called a pot stirrer just because someone didn’t know the answer for sure or couldn’t articulate it well.
04-01-2021, 01:14 PM
#53
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 57
This raw interpretation would actually be terrible because then after day 1 of BI there would not be any new hire pilots on property and pay reductions would not be suspended. I know it’s a super detailed question, but like ECC said, devil in the details. Super good news if the intent of the interpretation holds up.
04-01-2021, 01:16 PM
#54
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2014
Position: 787 right
Posts: 504
For the purpose of the LOA, a new pilot is a new hire pilot for the duration of the loa. If they wanted to furlough all of these “new hires” then the mpg reductions in the LOA would go back into effect. That’s my interpretation of the LOA anyway.
04-01-2021, 01:18 PM
#55
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 57
Yes, this was the intent that was confirmed to me by union as well. Good stuff!
04-01-2021, 01:31 PM
#56
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: 787
Posts: 3,202
This raw interpretation would actually be terrible because then after day 1 of BI there would not be any new hire pilots on property and pay reductions would not be suspended. I know it’s a super detailed question, but like ECC said, devil in the details. Super good news if the intent of the interpretation holds up.
04-01-2021, 01:34 PM
#57
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 57
Ah no, just opposite thinking of “Pilot John finished his fleet training so he’s not “new” anymore.” The 30,000 foot view of what they intended is good.
04-02-2021, 06:14 AM
#60
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 737 fo
Posts: 908
That is not true either. In my Continental class, we had numerous minorities and women, I didn’t ask about anyone’s sexual orientation and didn’t care. Making hiring harder for “pasty white guys” is just as wrong as it was in years past where minorities were discriminated against.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
