New Vacancy Bid / Hiring
03-31-2021, 06:43 PM
#32
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I'm all for optimism, but I ain’t buying that captain house yet is all I’m saying...
03-31-2021, 06:44 PM
#33
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Agree. But how do you determine that?
thought - if (and I’m not specifically talking about UAL but this fully in effect in some corners of the industry) a pre-interview test gouge sheet is widely available amongst squadron buds (or any inside group) and they all rock the test are they therefore the most qualified individuals?
thought - if (and I’m not specifically talking about UAL but this fully in effect in some corners of the industry) a pre-interview test gouge sheet is widely available amongst squadron buds (or any inside group) and they all rock the test are they therefore the most qualified individuals?
Race, gender, sexual orientation should all be left out of it. None of those help or hinder talent.
04-01-2021, 06:55 AM
#34
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What you are leaving out is the fact that not everyone in the squadron or inside group gets the recommendation. The bad apples get left out. At Continental in the mid 2000’s a Pilot could get someone hired. I didn’t recommend many because I had seen their poor performance at the regionals. You are right in that you cannot screen someone in a few short interviews but, relying on past performance and those that have seen that performance is a proven method of screening talent.
Race, gender, sexual orientation should all be left out of it. None of those help or hinder talent.
Race, gender, sexual orientation should all be left out of it. None of those help or hinder talent.
04-01-2021, 10:40 AM
#36
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Don't get me wrong, I’d love for this to be the beginning of a robust rebound- there’s even a fair chance it could be. I’m also seeing resurgent viral spread in the US & Europe. France is locking back down. Even if COVID is under control by the summer, its longer lasting economic impacts are yet unknown. And we still haven’t cracked 50% pilot block hours in a single month. Call me Eeyore if you like, but I see many obstacles to overcome before we’re back to the 2019 party.
I'm all for optimism, but I ain’t buying that captain house yet is all I’m saying...
I'm all for optimism, but I ain’t buying that captain house yet is all I’m saying...
04-01-2021, 11:59 AM
#37
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What you are leaving out is the fact that not everyone in the squadron or inside group gets the recommendation. The bad apples get left out. At Continental in the mid 2000’s a Pilot could get someone hired. I didn’t recommend many because I had seen their poor performance at the regionals. You are right in that you cannot screen someone in a few short interviews but, relying on past performance and those that have seen that performance is a proven method of screening talent.
Race, gender, sexual orientation should all be left out of it. None of those help or hinder talent.
Race, gender, sexual orientation should all be left out of it. None of those help or hinder talent.
Yet, they prevent critical opportunities from ever being presented in the first place...
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04-01-2021, 12:00 PM
#38
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Full array of opinions on this. We're not going to effectively hash it all out in some Internet forum and we're all going to get pulled down into the mud by the least common denominator (probably by some guy talking about Hyundais and coal rolling if past is prologue). Am guessing you and I aren't conducting the interviews so go through the union if you have an opinion/suggestion you want to express on the process. It's still the company making the final decision. Once a pilot is here they're welcome in every sense of the word and it's on them to perform well and on us to mentor them as we all uphold the standards we expect of each other. They're high standards as they darn well need to be.
^this!
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04-01-2021, 12:06 PM
#39
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VP ops just sent out a message... said the 300 with conditional offers is just the start. Also said that effective May the section of the Pandemic Agreement on reduced MPG is stopped and all pilots will receive the full 73 hour reserve guarantee or 72 LPA for line holders... and will stay in effect anytime a new hire is on property. This is really good news.
04-01-2021, 12:13 PM
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New hire pilot on property
VP ops just sent out a message... said the 300 with conditional offers is just the start. Also said that effective May the section of the Pandemic Agreement on reduced MPG is stopped and all pilots will receive the full 73 hour reserve guarantee or 72 LPA for line holders... and will stay in effect anytime a new hire is on property. This is really good news.
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