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03-22-2021, 12:54 PM
#82
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Joined APC: Sep 2012
Posts: 511
not being anti-management doesn’t make me pro-management. That takes care of many of your criticisms of non NO voters.
painting all critics of oldmako as the same is just as intellectually lazy. I’ve never called him pathetic, etc. ... obviously anyone on the forum is guilty of the same thing he is by definition: Arguing with strangers when they could be enjoying retirement, or hanging out with their kids, or building their next adventure vehicle.
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painting all critics of oldmako as the same is just as intellectually lazy. I’ve never called him pathetic, etc. ... obviously anyone on the forum is guilty of the same thing he is by definition: Arguing with strangers when they could be enjoying retirement, or hanging out with their kids, or building their next adventure vehicle.
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03-22-2021, 12:56 PM
#83
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Joined APC: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,159
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Kirby’s motives for running a larger and better airline probably could not be more different than ours. Namely the desire to prove that he is better than Parker, and better than everyone else for that matter. while for us, we are Neck Deep in the operation every day, and it is much more enjoyable to be at work when you are properly supported and can be proud of the product you provide. SK sure could change… But might as well enjoy the good times while they’re here. There will be ample opportunity for distrust and anger towards management in all of our careers
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Kirby’s motives for running a larger and better airline probably could not be more different than ours. Namely the desire to prove that he is better than Parker, and better than everyone else for that matter. while for us, we are Neck Deep in the operation every day, and it is much more enjoyable to be at work when you are properly supported and can be proud of the product you provide. SK sure could change… But might as well enjoy the good times while they’re here. There will be ample opportunity for distrust and anger towards management in all of our careers
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My take is that Kirby has something to prove. As I recall he's a wash out from AF UPT, and he was let go from AA. He's a two time loser with an axe to grind. So far, he hasn't made the cut. Someone who is an underdog and who has something to prove should not be underestimated. You either love winning, or hate losing, or both. SK may not love winning, but I think he's starting to hate losing. I am OK with either option. He is an underdog and a hungry one at that. Let's see if he can cobble together all of his professional life lessons learned and form a winning team/strategy and run a strong race. it's his race to run. If I see something AFU or TU I'll speak up. If I think ALPA is being taken advantage of, or not doing their enforcement part I'll speak up. I don't follow blindly any more... not management, nor ALPA. Anyone wants my trust, they gotta earn it.
03-22-2021, 04:55 PM
#84
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Joined APC: May 2006
Position: WB Bunkie
Posts: 1,246
I don't get when people say this. When someone is retired they have plenty of time to do the things they like AND look at the forums if they so choose. They don't have to work anymore, remember? Are you telling me taking 15 minutes a day to browse a forum after you spent 6 hours fishing is having no life? What's your excuse for spending your precious time here?
03-24-2021, 04:10 AM
#86
Abused Spouse of PBS
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 440
(genuine question and honestly not trying to pick a fight.)
My thoughts as we start to emerge from this pandemic is to avoid the management arrogance of the past and award themselves the huge bonuses like they did when we exited bankruptcy. Spoiling the good will with the pilots is a big mistake.
I’ve been referring to SK’s strategy this past year as the “Kirby Gamble” and was hopeful it would pay off, but was still guarded and kept my financial house in order. I hope this gamble pays off for all our sakes.
03-24-2021, 05:35 AM
#87
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Joined APC: May 2009
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Posts: 470
I was working in commercial strategy at AA when SK was president. I gave a presentation to him in his conference room the morning before his succession was announced. The below article does a great job summarizing the events.
https://viewfromthewing.com/american...ys-of-my-life/
https://viewfromthewing.com/american...ys-of-my-life/
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