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11-18-2020, 05:00 AM
#51
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I find that this job is a ratio of hassle/reward. The difference between WB first officer and NB captain is only about $40k. To me it’s just not worth it. The up and down flying on the domestic side of the house actually beats me up much more than flying international (with the exception of South America, they kill me). Being a domestic captain would pay a few dollars more, but it would be more work and cost about 4-5 more days on the road as a commuter. I’ve also found that I really enjoy almost everything about WB flying. Having that choice is what makes this a pretty good job. I just hope that things improve soon and more people get to have that choice.
11-18-2020, 05:57 AM
#52
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I find that this job is a ratio of hassle/reward. The difference between WB first officer and NB captain is only about $40k. To me it’s just not worth it. The up and down flying on the domestic side of the house actually beats me up much more than flying international (with the exception of South America, they kill me). Being a domestic captain would pay a few dollars more, but it would be more work and cost about 4-5 more days on the road as a commuter. I’ve also found that I really enjoy almost everything about WB flying. Having that choice is what makes this a pretty good job. I just hope that things improve soon and more people get to have that choice.
11-18-2020, 06:54 AM
#53
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https://www.faa.gov/news/updates/?newsld=93206
Historic day - FAA Updates on the Max Return
-Final FSB report published on FSIMS.
—FAA rescinded the “grounding” order
- AD published for RTS.
Historic day - FAA Updates on the Max Return
-Final FSB report published on FSIMS.
—FAA rescinded the “grounding” order
- AD published for RTS.
11-18-2020, 07:30 AM
#54
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Totally disagree with this statement. Training is not very good. JMO
11-18-2020, 08:14 AM
#56
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It’s much more consistent. I came from the CAL side, and while the 777 and 756 was pretty well run, the 737 was a disaster. I have never seen such inconsistency and sloppiness, both in training and on the line as what I saw back then. People on the line, including LCA’s didn’t even read checklist verbatim, and SOP’s were more of an ish-type of mentality. Instructors both in the school house and on the line regularly taught personal techniques as if they were book procedures. I don’t think that our current training department is any better or worse than Delta or American today, but it’s much, much better than what I went through at CAL.
11-18-2020, 09:21 AM
#58
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Position: A320 FO
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it won’t affect training at all. There are 3 MAX sims sitting and doing nothing. All training will be done in those. Once all 737 pilots are trained in those 3 sims the amount of normal training that can be done will go way up.
since we didn’t furlough the instructor group there are more than enough instructors to handle it.
since we didn’t furlough the instructor group there are more than enough instructors to handle it.
11-18-2020, 10:45 AM
#59
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It’s much more consistent. I came from the CAL side, and while the 777 and 756 was pretty well run, the 737 was a disaster. I have never seen such inconsistency and sloppiness, both in training and on the line as what I saw back then. People on the line, including LCA’s didn’t even read checklist verbatim, and SOP’s were more of an ish-type of mentality. Instructors both in the school house and on the line regularly taught personal techniques as if they were book procedures. I don’t think that our current training department is any better or worse than Delta or American today, but it’s much, much better than what I went through at CAL.
11-18-2020, 05:00 PM
#60
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My experience with TK training is from both an instructor and student. I find that those who complain about training at UAL are generally unprepared, weak, lazy or just an odd duck. This is my third major airline and the training here is far and away the best of the three. If you put in the slightest bit of effort every transition and or CQ event is a breeze and you’ll be fully prepared for the line. If you’re one of those contrary morons that wants to be spoon fed, you’re going to have issues.
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