DwightSchrute

We should have a sense of humor about typical pilot-isms. “God save the ball” on one end and “get out of my seat!” On the other! :-)

biggun

I could be wrong here. But isn't that what the furlough fund is for?

Sixty N Two

Wow, I’m confused, when was this A plan restoration idea ever brought up in any official capacity to discuss it let alone shoot it down? And who are the junior folks who wielded the power and numbers to shoot it down. I’d absolutely support some sort of bonus for those who’ve lost A plane. Never had the chance to voice an opinion on the topic.

And the more I read and hear I remain undecided. I had plans today so missed it live and hope to see the Q&A to help fill in more details. I truly see multiple logical arguments to pro and con. I’d like to hear constructive criticism of the deserting 3 votes too.

I am also struck with how often I heard my Union speaks for me and now we have a huge divide. Do that many people really think the union did not speak for them? Why would Todd and other ALPA MEC vote yes if they felt it was a bad deal? Why ignore the masses? I ask you because honestly you are opposed toward this TA and seemingly those who approved it. What’s rationale do you think they used to pass it and now push it? Hope I’m not perceived as attacking you. Your passionate and I want to know why you think the MEC would hurt so many senior and junior pilots. Are they incompetent, negligent to the right needs of the union or are 16 of 19 just wrong and not smart enough to see the companies strategy?

mmm123

They did not have the chance to vote against the annuity that was brought up but rest assure they spoke against it and they I guess you have to go to the minutes of the meeting to see exactly who. As far as Insler I have no confidence in him or his group that are pushing all of this. All I see is an individual concerned with moving up the ALPA ladder. JMO As far as my union speaks for me, how about how many junior folks in the last 6 months have said or written that they will take a furlough they just want to have a good contract to come back to. Well that tune has changed. Don't get me wrong I sure as heck don't want furloughs as some that will head out the door I helped get here at UAL. This company has been flying with probably 5000 pilots for the last 6 months, do you really believe the stuff from Insler and SK that we are positioning to spring into action when this is all over? Sorry I don't see it happening that quickly, neither does SK. No worries I don't feel attacked at all, best of luck to you in your career.

SystemB

“Bless my heart”? Why the sarcasm? I’m assuming that you don’t like my explanation.
My “go fund me” for the bottom 1/3 comes in two parts:
1. I voted to fund your medical expenses if you get furloughed, by paying into that fund every paycheck.
2. I’ll be voting “yes” on this TA, thereby giving up 18 hours of MPG every month, for two years, so that you can keep your job.
Is that enough “go fund me”, or would you like anything else to go with that?

Sixty N Two

SK no, I expect him to try and extract all he can. Insler and the MEC I did not except to hear as much negativity about them at this point. I appreciate your candor and perspective that the company and ALPA may both have an agenda more than be told I’m stealing from you if I vote yes.

It strikes me as odd that this all has to happen at the 11th hour. Fear and expediency are not generally healthy ingredients for effective decision making. I’m still digesting and waiting to see what other downsides are being found. Best wishes to you.