fadec

That's the MPG reduction, then vacation pay is added back in as add pay at the existing rate of 3.25 hr/day.

mmm123

c-12 voted no.

texaspropguy

New guy question: What is Vacation pay used for MPG now? This could be an impact to days off when bidding lines for those that try to maximize days off in a vacation month.

oldmako

From the other forum...the OTHER, other forum, the NEW one...he's a smelly nugget...

"...if a Trip for that Category cannot be assigned without disruption of days off, the number of disrupted days off shall be no more than four (4) days per assignment."


​​​​​​So now, every reserve, Basic or Global, can be assigned a 5 day trip on their last day of reserve. And they can do this as many times as they want–all they have do is shuffle your remaining RDOs. Bye bye Basic HDOs. This is a HUGE concession for all the Basic reserves."

Dicecal

I tried to keep an open mind on this, and considered the current environment and what the attempted goal of this TA is...

Firm NO voter, vote early and often!

Hedley

Pay rate protection. Section F2 says that to be pay protected you have to have a 100% vacancy bid in to qualify. They use the example of someone displaced out of SFO 737 CA, that person would have to have a bid for SFO 737 CA at 100% to qualify. How do pilots displaced when bases closed in meet these requirements? A displaced IAH 777 pilot, or a LAX 756 pilot can’t bid their former BES if it no longer exists.

Nucflash

C12 W.M. was a joke as MEC chair and she left the UAL furloughees to rot. How is she even still in a leadership position?

rvfanatic

Termination triggers:

4. Passenger revenue reaches 80% of 2019 level for a single quarter.

5. Passenger revenue reaches 70% of 2019 level for three consecutive quarters.

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“Passenger” is important because it takes away “cargo” revenue (which has been successful) from the equation for terminating the LOA and getting us back to full pay.

vipereaglebus

How about this nugget they slid in there. A BRAND NEW paragraph as it relates to middle seat pay:

5-C-1-g-(1) Notwithstanding section 5-C-3, a pilot may be re-seated out of an Economy Plus middle seat into an Economy Plus aisle or window seat if such seat is made or becomes available (due to any reason) prior to Departure.

So the gate agent can tap you on the shoulder just prior to door close and give you a misconnect's window seat. I'm not sure if this was allowed before (it's never happened to me like that), but there's a reason the company added this language....and it will likely stay in our contract for a looong time.

duvie

I honestly don’t know if you care to interpret this any other way than the union is selling you out, but this was already happening and completely legal:

I was settling into my middle seat from Chicago to San Fran, thinking about motorcycle parts I could buy with my new found money… The gate agent came on board and gave me a new ticket. I told him I was comfortable where I was, and he replied “well you can sit wherever you want, but the system is going to show you in your new seat“

as someone who has sat reserve for a lot of his UAL time, the middle seat provision has been very kind to my checkbook (lots of pairing repair with DHs).​​​​ however, something happened about two years ago, and the system got smart enough to identify deadheading pilots and push them out of middle seats whenever it could. Often I would check in for a flight and have a middle seat assigned, but by the time I scanned my boarding pass, I would’ve been pushed to a new (non middle) seat