LAXLUVR

Granted it is early in the cycle but I wonder why so few are bidding for a voluntary furlough? With only 20 or so folks on the voluntary furlough list I'm wondering if the 150 that took the voluntary in 2008 thinking they'd be out for a year at most, and then ended up out for 3-4 years, are seeing the greater risk this time?

dmeg13021

CARES 2.0 perhaps?

Hedley

My guess is that they’re waiting to see what the government does and planning on making the decision when the next round of furloughs is announced this winter.

Duckdude

I’d guess people are wondering, why bother? I took the 1/2 month COLA expecting to save half a job. Instead, there were 603 extra furloughs.

McNugent

Cares2 + ESRLs = bye bye UAL for however long they’ll let me 🤞🏼

At least that’s my logic. Im not sure why folks would walk for free right now. We have several weeks for tha gubbermint to pay up.

pangolin

Lethargic disconnected legislators with an unpredictable executive branch. Good luck with that.

crflyer

Cares2, sure. Wouldn’t hold out any hope for company-paid leaves when the major goal is just to reduce any amount of unnecessary cash burn. That said, I’d take one as well.

mrjiggs287

Voluntary furlough is really only an option if you are not already being furloughed. In that case one could take a voluntary furlough with an earlier date. But, once your original furlough date comes around you change status to involuntary furlough.

Also, say you take a voluntary furlough thinking you will definitely be furloughed. Then, by some unforeseen circumstances, you end up being above the involuntary furlough cut, you just mitigated some junior pilot’s involuntary furlough. You stay furloughed until the first pilot junior to you is recalled.

I am definitely being furloughed. I would have taken a voluntary furlough early if I could get hired somewhere else. Unfortunately, I have not been lucky to find other employment yet.

I got this information from the CPO furlough Information sessions this week.

Al Czervik

Can someone guarantee a voluntary furlough or is it only if UAL actually furloughs?

mrjiggs287

The way I understood it from the information session, at this time, any pilot can ask for a voluntary furlough, It would probably be approved because that is part of the current mitigation efforts under way.