horrido27

Back in April, management got together and decided that our airline would be "30% smaller".
Not once have they defined that.
Are we going to be 30% smaller by Fleet, by revenue, by cost (ie.. labor), by seats?
Which is (was) it?

Then 2 May comes around and 20-07D. A Mega Displacement that we knew was over the top.. and was proven so in that a week or so later, they modified it and reduced the numbers.
All that could have been avoided by initially offering an Early Out.
Nope.
What's even crazier is that they decided to cancel hundreds of training events in May for those on the potential displacement bid (myself included, even though I was already in place in Denver!). So hundreds of pilots who could/should have maintained currency were dropped and the result was PP on numerous fleets later on.

Make no mistake, this has been part of the playbook from management to create fear and dissension within the pilot group.
And I get that. It's their job. But it's the job of our union to push/fight back.
That has not happened.

You bring up the point of hiring 4 mechanics to work on my car.. at 67% of their salary.
Well, if I signed a contract and have union mechanics.. that's the game.

Again, if they had offered an early out from the get go, and offered something akin to Delta/American/SouthWest.. They would have required less Displacements, which would have resulted in less Premium Pay and there would have been a better/realistic idea of where we may have to furlough.
We (UALALPA/UAL Management) will go down in history as the only ones to ever have an Early Out/Furlough Mitigation Program that resulted in more furloughs!

SK is a gambler at the core, and we have been nothing but chips. I get that but we should all be honest and accept that.
Just as the damage that LUAL Management (and the Union, in Part) did in the early/mid 2000's has not gone away with regards to many LUAL Pilots, the damage that is being done to the entire pilot group (but ESPECIALLY the bottom 3rd) will linger for years to come.
And I hate to type that.
I will ALWAYS do my Job to 100%, Safely & Professionally. And I also know that most pilots will do the same. But.. that extra 1%.. ?!
How much of the operation relies on that extra...?
it is what it is.

Always
Motch

SONORA PASS

Dash Trash,

EXCELLENT Reminder!
We have been down that legal path with management before, and it was a very ugly and unexpected outcome.

SP

horrido27

2nd that!
Just be Professional, just do your job.
It'll all work out in the end~
Motch

ugleeual

do the furlough letters include any info on furlough pay?

ReadOnly7

yes. Very clearly states that we will receive it

E6-B

But they get to save some money by furloughing some of us earlier than they previously stated.

flygirl14

Is UAL furloughing more than the 1750 on Oct 1?

JurgenKlopp

During one of the townhall’s Insler said management is perfectly fine making decisions that cost more long term if such decisions reduce short term cash burn. Once I heard that it was pretty clear to me that we weren’t getting a deal like JetBlue or Spirit...