Huell

BINGO !

Who was the CAL exec who's claim to fame was cutting so much from training programs that guys would start serious study at home ?
I forget her name ... She always figured that a certain percent would demand more training but figured the company would still come out ahead dollar wise.

When I learned this from a cal guy I made sure I demanded more.

CORE5 ya know.

JurgenKlopp

I’m guessing Debbie McCoy aka Princess Scabella. Fred Abbott would tell anyone who wanted to listen that the training department was only place in company that would never generate positive cash flow. So training was just a necessary burden to that dolt. Yep very glad we are done with JFK Blvd era...

Huell

That's the one. They have cut so much that they expect a certain percentage to request more training. Think about that.

Hedley

There should be plenty of time, if not I can always ask for more? It isn’t like the old days where you had to know every pressure, temperature, and electrical source of every switch, long memory item list, normal flows and stabilization flows, limitations for every possible engine intermix, plus pass a 2 hour stand up oral wearing a coat and tie. Keep up and pass or you’re fired. Today’s training is very watered down and spoon fed. You’d have to work harder to fail than to pass. Just keep up with the syllabus and you’ll be ok.

Andy

I emailed Carlson last week. 20-10D is on hold until after ALPA furlough mitigation negotiations. He said he didn't know when it would be out.

Deathray

I’m glad it’s like this now. That old way sounds horrible. It would be interesting to see if that old way was effective or just harassment. Seems like mishap rates are lower now than they were in the past.

Hedley

It had more to do with the technology at the time. You were the automation and had to know everything at a different level. Some of it was just old school mentality carried over from the military, but knowing the max start temp for every different version of the JT8 were just numbers that you needed to know. As far as mishaps, there just isn’t much to mess up these days. Modern airplanes have protective features where you just watch the magic, and where a computer does what we used to when there is a problem. I like this better too, but sometimes I think that they have gone too far. I get the mentality saying that if you can’t control it, don’t worry about it, but there is a lot of value in extensive systems knowledge that can really aid in trouble shooting a problem. MCAS would be an example of this. I don’t care how many PSI open a valve, but I’d like to know how it works in more detail than we get now. I guess I’ve just turned into the old fart.

RomeoHotel

I had a full corse a few years ago and they scheduled sim show times 1600..1200..0800..0400 on consecutive days... grueling and unproductive.

The only justification I could see was saving the company a travel day or 2...

Should that really be where their priorities lie instead of giving us a well rested productive sim session..?

pilotgolfer

They actually do that to benefit YOU. Its allows someone to actually use their two days off by commuting in prior to the late sim and being able to make it home on day 5.

RomeoHotel

Why not provide travel days and 2 days off to avoid condensing the clock over a 4 or 5 day period... Making 20 hour days out of 24 hour days negates our contractual restrictions of time spent at the training facility... In a given day you are expected to train for approximately 8 hours, eat, sleep and prepare for the next day and you’re forced to do that in 20hrs..I think it diminishes the quality of learning...