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Old 07-31-2020, 12:24 PM
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What is this condition bid? I read it that I would only be awarded it if I would be otherwise involuntarily furloughed. But if a pilot senior to me gets furloughed I won’t be awarded it. So how would I or anyone else ever be awarded this?
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That’s right and makes no sense. Reps confirmed...it’s utterly useless.
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If everyone above you took a voluntary furlough, empty line, or half month COLA.

Then it's dependant on what the company decides to award.

We'd all need to be on board taking one of those options.

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Scenario 1- no one gets furloughed. Your bid is never run. You keep 100% of your job and pay

Scenario 2- you are involuntary furloughed but there was enough voluntary takers at the senior level that the company decides to award a bunch of half month COLAs. Your conditional bid is ran. Result- whatever your bid can hold/company decides to award (Half month, empty line, etc)

Scenario 3- Same as scenario 2, except someone senior to you didnt put in a bid and is involuntary furloughed, you and everyone junior to him is now involuntary furloughed, regardless of what your bid says. Result- Invol. Furlough

Scenario 4- not enough furlough mitigation and most if not all 2250 are involuntary furloughed. Company can’t afford more half month COLAs so you don’t get any award. Result- Invol. Furlough
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There are only 100 slots anyway for 10k pilots
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If anything is so confusing you can't understand it then it's not good. I think it's worthless and I wouldn't touch it.
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Originally Posted by hslightnin
There are only 100 slots anyway for 10k pilots
Wrong. There are 100 guaranteed awards per program not 100 total.
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Wrong. There are 100 guaranteed awards per program not 100 total.
Big deal. Out of 13000ish pilots and 3900 hostages on the execution line, 100 guaranteed awards for empty lines or a half month COLA which equates to a 2 for 1 save a pilot ratio doesn’t give me the warm and fuzzies.
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Big deal. Out of 13000ish pilots and 3900 hostages on the execution line, 100 guaranteed awards for empty lines or a half month COLA which equates to a 2 for 1 save a pilot ratio doesn’t give me the warm and fuzzies.
the limiting factor right now is not the company limit but how many people actually want one.

there is no warm and fuzzy to be found anywhere.
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Originally Posted by captsurf
Scenario 1- no one gets furloughed. Your bid is never run. You keep 100% of your job and pay

Scenario 2- you are involuntary furloughed but there was enough voluntary takers at the senior level that the company decides to award a bunch of half month COLAs. Your conditional bid is ran. Result- whatever your bid can hold/company decides to award (Half month, empty line, etc)

Scenario 3- Same as scenario 2, except someone senior to you didnt put in a bid and is involuntary furloughed, you and everyone junior to him is now involuntary furloughed, regardless of what your bid says. Result- Invol. Furlough

Scenario 4- not enough furlough mitigation and most if not all 2250 are involuntary furloughed. Company can’t afford more half month COLAs so you don’t get any award. Result- Invol. Furlough
Scenario 5 - you would be the first 'Invol' furlough - you have a conditional bid in, and are awarded your top choice that is still available. The new first 'invol' furlough is now one number junior to you, rinse and repeat if they have a conditional bid in.

My mentor said the company will award as many Option A and B as possible, just a minimum of 100.
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