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08-02-2020, 04:52 PM

#21

Laminar

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Originally Posted by UAL97

They avoided furloughs since they had enough interest in their voluntary leave options. Surprising how that works when a company offers reasonable options.

RIGHT!! Why is that so difficult? Ares are confusing or worthless and limits of 100??? Really

08-02-2020, 05:09 PM

#22

Meekrob

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That and our MEC did a fantastic job negotiating with a management team that notoriously will trip over a $20 to save a dime. Im hearing it really came down to the final hour.

08-02-2020, 10:23 PM

#23

SystemB

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I’m very happy for the AS pilots. I have friends there. However, every company is in very different situations. Alaska has little international exposure, for example.
Also, it’s not over until it’s over. And unfortunately, it’s far from over. Hopefully AS (and many others) won’t have to furlough in the end, but I’m not so sure.

08-03-2020, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Laminar

RIGHT!! Why is that so difficult? Ares are confusing or worthless and limits of 100??? Really

In fairness, the 100 number is not a limit, it is a minimum. And the company has said they plan on granting almost all requests. So we’ll see what actually happens, but to call 100 a limit is inaccurate.

08-03-2020, 05:19 AM

#25

dingdong

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They were always welcoming and experienced crews, and I am going to miss the aft jumpseat they had on the 145's. Really sad to see employees from a respected regional out of a job, especially now.

08-03-2020, 08:36 AM

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rickair7777

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Originally Posted by SystemB

This is correct. AS and SWA have bought themselves time by retaining staff for a domestic demand recovery. But there still has to be a recovery for next summer. I think a vaccine(s) is pretty much needed for that to happen. A miracle treatment (mono-clonal antibodies?) would probably help, but I think the public would just prefer to be confidant that they're not going to get covid in the first place.

08-04-2020, 07:14 PM

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prt135

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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR

How does an expressjet pilot remain competitive? Is flying required?

Since aviate dissolving will there be preferred hiring on rebound?

Aviate isn’t dissolving

08-06-2020, 07:03 AM

#28

Grumble

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Originally Posted by prt135

Aviate isn’t dissolving

if anything they’re doubling down. There was a zoom presentation they did the other day expecting (and I’m paraphrasing here), on the other side of this plandemic they expect the largest hiring wave in the history of the industry.

08-06-2020, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumble

"Stay on the hook for pennies, Heaven is just around the corner"

Nevermind that the airlines have parked thousands of airplanes permanently and have no money to buy more. They will be cash strapped for a decade, much like the 2000's.

08-06-2020, 08:24 AM

#30

Huell

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Varsity

"Stay on the hook for pennies, Heaven is just around the corner"

Nevermind that the airlines have parked thousands of airplanes permanently and have no money to buy more. They will be cash strapped for a decade, much like the 2000's.

Yeah ... I have been reading and hearing about the great pilot shortage since 1984 ... Every time it seems the shortage gets close something happens ...