AxlF16

This was my inital reaction to the post as well, but I read it again and think he's really pushing for early outs and not targeted cuts. I see his angst directed at UAL, not senior pilots.

That's my way of agreeing with both of you 😉

oldmako

I sure hope so. But that's not how I read it. If I am wrong, my apologies. But 30 some years of listening to pilots yack has me springloaded to believe otherwise.

There may have been some distillates involved in my reading disuncomprehension.

****I missed "then buy those guys out". My apologies.

MasterOfPuppets

I was saying offer more EO and lower the age so more of our senior pilots can take it.....

MasterOfPuppets

no worries Mako we’re good FUPM!

im playin for the home team here. Just calling out the companies hypocrisy.

oldmako

My advanced age, lack of bowel movements, shrunken pecker, limited mobility, borderline senility, my bunions, trench-mouth, shingles, arthritis, smegmatosis, phlegmatism, sodden depends, etc have all left me dyspeptic and unable to properly discern the written word.

First ten rounds are on me. Carry on.

MasterOfPuppets

mid you end up on the 87 let me know I’ll buy you off a trip so you can get all that **** fixed.


or I’ll just come fly with you so I can learn some of your wisdom.

sleeves

Well sitting on the side lines hoping you don’t run out of money isn’t a strategy. There are companies making money flying planes. Cargo for one, Charter for another. They need to do more to make people feel safe. Invest in rapid testing, like I here employees might be doing before going to Hong Kong. Maybe special masks hooked up to direct ventilation. Yes, I realize these are all very complicated solutions. They are making huge money, to come up with the idea of waiting....This thing very well might be with us for years, not months. Better start thinking out of the box now or we will be looking at ch7. Ch11 requires a plan, we don’t have one.

I like your Idea on the contracts, They would never agree to give it back to us but they should not be paying so much that Skywest earns a profit! Especially when we and our planes are all sitting around getting paid and fuel is crazy cheap.

tausap

I would take it. I wrote to Insler/Whiteford and asked how allowing the EO by age and not seniority was not age discrimination. He didn’t even bother to answer me and instead had a lackey ALPA lawyer answer me. I’m 53 with 25 years of service and would like to leave with a safety net for a few years, say 3 years or age 65, whichever comes first, to pursue other things, but I can’t because I’m too young. I’m sure others would do the same. Their excuses were unsatisfying. It was “the best they could do”.

iHateAMR

If 3900 is the magic post merger hiring number, is there anything special in the contract that changes between post and pre merger hires? Other than dividing the group, curious if there’s something else.

UAL97

Most likely a divisor where they hope they can get nearly an entire group to vote for concessions to save their jobs. Hoping that they don't know any better since they haven't been on the property for prior furloughs.