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Old 07-29-2020, 05:37 PM
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Yes, Delta’s non-union workgroups most certainly have baseline compensation that was built up off of union jobs at equivalent mainline union carriers. A rising tide (of union labor) has most certainly raised all boats.



Their groups took a 25%+ paycut to fund the departure of enough employees to TEMPORARILY avoid layoffs. Thank god my union didn’t allow that. How many times are we going to see that same trick pulled? But hey, you do you.

Never ceases to amaze me how many self-serving union-hating yokels take union jobs or in SKYW case (some not all) people that have zero respect or understanding for what unions have done that directly benefit them without ever paying a cent of dues.
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Old 07-29-2020, 05:57 PM
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Also, Skywest provides a much better product then CommutAir, Mesa and Gojet.
*Laughs in mormon*
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Old 07-29-2020, 06:38 PM
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If I’m given the choice between SkyWest and Mesa I’m choosing neither. I’m not providing these crap carriers with skilled labor for pennies. Let’s dump the kool-aid out. SkyWest is rewarded the most outsourced growth not because they’re managed any different than any other dumpster fire, but because they’ve convinced their pilots that they’re special. The pay, work rules, benefits, KCM access, etc.. at SkyWest are all direct results from investment of union pilots and their pattern bargaining. The denial and failing of such a large group of regional pilots has created a landscape where they enjoy continued outsourced growth from all majors while, in fact, suppressing upward pay for that industry and reducing leverage for mainline pilots to bring the flying back. Being at the top of the **** pile you encourage and feed isn’t anything to brag on.
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Old 07-30-2020, 03:14 AM
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SkyWest is a scourge on this industry. All mainline pilots should negotiate scope that says ANY outsourced or codeshare flying must be done by ALPA carriers domestically.
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Old 07-30-2020, 04:42 AM
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SkyWest is a scourge on this industry. All mainline pilots should negotiate scope that says ANY outsourced or codeshare flying must be done by ALPA carriers domestically.
Naw PSA definitely holds that title bud.
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Old 07-30-2020, 12:17 PM
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It's time to cancel all outsourced flying and bring it in house.
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Old 07-30-2020, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by peepz
Naw PSA definitely holds that title bud.
No guys .... Mesa
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Old 07-30-2020, 03:34 PM
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XJT guy here. Just got word from the company and MEC, United chose Commutair
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Old 07-30-2020, 04:25 PM
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ExpressJetters,

As you may be aware, United made a strategic decision to retain only one ERJ145 United Express operator for 2021 and beyond. Unfortunately, we have just been told that United intends to go forward with CommutAir as its sole operator of the ERJ145 in 2021.

This is devastating news for all of us. ExpressJet’s capability and flexibility have always been unchallenged. Although we presented a solid business plan, with very attractive costs, to United, unfortunately, we did not make the cut. It is disappointing to all that ExpressJet’s many strengths – including our ability to maintain and fly hundreds of aircraft - were insufficient to secure the win in an era of industry uncertainty and caution.

In the coming days, we will work with United to develop a workplan for the phased wind-down of our operations. The transition will take a number of months, and we’ll be sure to provide updates along the way. That workplan will include the timeline, information relating to specific work groups, and details regarding your pay and benefits. As soon as that information becomes available, we will share it with you.

In the meanwhile, I ask that you continue to display your exemplary professionalism and perform at your regular high level. Please continue to hold your best-in-the-business head high and contribute as we go through this difficult transition. And most importantly, please stay healthy and safe.

Best Regards,

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Old 07-30-2020, 04:59 PM
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That just sucks. I commute on both and it is night and day Commutair vs Expressjet, they may have finally made the pizza so cheap no one will buy it.
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