Originally Posted by cadetdrivr

No, Barley had it right the first time.

The ones addicted to CNN have a different set of issues.

Originally Posted by Huell

I have only done this 5 or 6 times over 20 years and only with the continually defiant few ... Also works during contract negotiations when I have withdrawn my enthusiasm ... some call it job action ... I call it WOE ... A guy picking up time or cutting deals with the company ... I figure he's tired ... Give him a break and just have him work the radios for a few days ... Pull out the contract or DYKs at cruise and talk about it. I know it has made a difference once or twice ... One guy dropped all of his picked up trips ... Ended up running for a union position a few years later ... I voted for him.

You can do it without being a tyrant and actually have some fun with it.

Never created a safety issue ... well, except "captain jack" ... an f/o who created his own safety issues ... No jack ... If you are high on final you can't just do a 360 without asking ... don't care what you did in the Sr.-71 ...

Originally Posted by Poss

The top dog is the Captain. He's supposed to take all the information and make a choice. He signed for the jet. FO makes input. It's valued and respected. FO supports Capt in final decision in order to get plane on ground. Sorry "boss duvie", but it isn't a democracy.

Originally Posted by Poss

The top dog is the Captain. He's supposed to take all the information and make a choice. He signed for the jet. FO makes input. It's valued and respected. FO supports Capt in final decision in order to get plane on ground. Sorry "boss duvie", but it isn't a democracy.

Originally Posted by duvie

you’re straw-manning me dude. I think you understand my position better than you’re representing it

Originally Posted by Duckdude

I just tell the captain I’m too warm and will wait inside the terminal until it cools down. APU always starts immediately and it helps avoid a conflict.

Originally Posted by JoePatroni

If it’s warm, APU on immediately. Why it’s warm is not my problem.

Originally Posted by Barley

I just reach up and turn it on while he yells at whatever new fake-rage is being pushed on his FoxNews app.

😇

Originally Posted by Huell

Works the other way as well.

Cap ... When you get to the plane just go ahead and start the Apu and cool it off.

... Some time later ...

Cap ... Hey, why is it so warm in here ... I asked you to start the Apu and cool it off.

F/O ... Well, the company wants us to reduce the Apu usage bla bla bla..

*** This is how an f/o becomes a radio operator for the next 2/3/4/5 days and I do all the flying ... with a gentle lecture on each leg about CAPTAINS authority ***

Works.

Originally Posted by KonaJoe

I hope you're exaggerating. About the FO who wouldn't start the APU.

I was always more concerned about the big picture stuff. Like how I hope it isn't pomegranate vinaigrette with the meal today. #Pre-Covid problems.

Other favorite Pre-Covid problems:

- I hate these thick stripes.
- I hope we keep the thick stripes.
- Guppies shouldn't be flying to Hawaii.
- "It's not a f------ Guppy."
- Why does this stupid airplane need a yoke. On the airbus...
- I hate cheesecake.