Early Outs
08-11-2020, 07:42 AM
#391
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Not to be a Debbie Downer, but the 502 doesn’t take into consideration those that have not filled out their waiver yet? Right? Hopefully, all will fill it out!!! But I have talked to two pilots that have signed up for it, but intentionally did not fill out the waiver because they’re not totally sure if they are going to follow through with it. They told me that they can elongate their decision window by bidding for it before the deadline passed.
08-11-2020, 08:00 AM
#393
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08-11-2020, 08:19 AM
#394
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yeah those that think they are just going to ride the gravy train at min gurantee and never work are going to end up being ****ed when they make the equivilant of of the pilots that went out early commuting to reserve. The next two years are going to be a **** show, why those other 600 decided to put themselves through it it is a little baffling. By the time things get better they will be walking out the door, the ones that took this deal will be the smart ones.
thanks to all those who took the early out and helped save jobs.
08-11-2020, 08:58 AM
#395
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yeah those that think they are just going to ride the gravy train at min gurantee and never work are going to end up being ****ed when they make the equivilant of of the pilots that went out early commuting to reserve. The next two years are going to be a **** show, why those other 600 decided to put themselves through it it is a little baffling. By the time things get better they will be walking out the door, the ones that took this deal will be the smart ones.
thanks to all those who took the early out and helped save jobs.
thanks to all those who took the early out and helped save jobs.
08-11-2020, 09:12 AM
#396
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Many don’t commute. Being one year to retirement making 73 hrs reserve guarantee beats 50 hrs for the early out if they don’t anticipate flying much. With the lower line values, empty lines, and greatly reduce schedules, they could be banking on others scrambling for hours leaving the senior widebody reserve pilot very little to do. Most who took the early out did it because they wanted to leave and the terms were acceptable, not to make a personal sacrifice to potentially save a furloughed pilot.
08-11-2020, 09:33 AM
#397
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Happy for the 787 pilots with a delayed separation. They can call in sick until then, burn their sick leave, and walk with nothing left on the table.
08-11-2020, 10:03 AM
#398
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burning sick time is a good reason. It’s also a lesson in why not to have 1000 hours. Nothing like having to come to work just so you don’t leave 400K on the table.
08-11-2020, 06:43 PM
#399
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I would like to have around 300 hours to avoid disability if I break a leg or get really sick, but I’ve never been able to accrue more than 150 hours. It’s been building since I’ve been nonqual and home waiting for training, but they are sure to find me soon and assign a class date. Im expecting my sick bank to take another hit in a couple of months when deer season starts. It’s strange how some people get sick the same time every year and also in the same month as recurrent. Training on days off tends to make people feel the need to recover those days off and ensure that you are fit for duty.
08-11-2020, 07:13 PM
#400
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Also, every one of these pilots started their career with the idea that they would retire at age 60 with a pension that would have been less than what they would have got per year to 65 from this deal. 😕
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