UAL to remove seats from RJs
#111
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Joined APC: Dec 2018
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Yeah, the block hours YTD already suck, for everybody (excepting maybe QX, because one “legacy” doesn’t have any scope restriction), and they are likely to get worse before they get better. Scope built with a restriction on previous domestic Block hour flying ought to be awful tight next year systemwide.
#112
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Position: A320 FO
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almost correct.
there are a couple of limits:
total hulls being operated by UAX as percentage of single aisle mainline aircraft. That limit applies to the total of small and larger RJ and has never been reached.
total number of 70/76 seaters. That is an absolute limit and not a function of NB count. That limit has been reached a long time ago.
total UAX block hours as a percentage of single aisle mainline block hours. That will be interesting to see as covid schedule reductions creep into the 12 month look back. I don’t think that limit was ever reached Pre-covid. That limit also doesnt differentiate between small and large RJ. You can expect 70/76 seaters to fly according to the absolute limit and 50 seater to go away.
and then there is a the furlough provision. No 76 seater at UAX are allowed if furloughed deeper than x. This is not subject to block hour or hull limitations or ratios.
there are a couple of limits:
total hulls being operated by UAX as percentage of single aisle mainline aircraft. That limit applies to the total of small and larger RJ and has never been reached.
total number of 70/76 seaters. That is an absolute limit and not a function of NB count. That limit has been reached a long time ago.
total UAX block hours as a percentage of single aisle mainline block hours. That will be interesting to see as covid schedule reductions creep into the 12 month look back. I don’t think that limit was ever reached Pre-covid. That limit also doesnt differentiate between small and large RJ. You can expect 70/76 seaters to fly according to the absolute limit and 50 seater to go away.
and then there is a the furlough provision. No 76 seater at UAX are allowed if furloughed deeper than x. This is not subject to block hour or hull limitations or ratios.
#113
Several different interconnected constraints. It is hard to keep them all straight without a spreadsheet. Perhaps some kind soul will scour the data and make one.
The number of 70/76 seat airframes was already at the limit based on total narrowbody airframes.
The 'poison pill' clause requires elimination of all 76 seat airframes in the event of a furlough but the total limit of over 50 seat airframes remains the same.
The real fireworks should be the block hour restrictions from the lookback period. It is hard to envision how that gets dealt with.
Please correct me if I am inaccurate. I don't have the contract in front of me.
The number of 70/76 seat airframes was already at the limit based on total narrowbody airframes.
The 'poison pill' clause requires elimination of all 76 seat airframes in the event of a furlough but the total limit of over 50 seat airframes remains the same.
The real fireworks should be the block hour restrictions from the lookback period. It is hard to envision how that gets dealt with.
Please correct me if I am inaccurate. I don't have the contract in front of me.
#114
Seriously doubt they are going to make new mainline routes SOLELY for the purpose of generating more scope availability for affiliated regionals. Those routes are either economically feasible or they are not.
However, if they did I’m sure both pilot groups would take it.
However, if they did I’m sure both pilot groups would take it.
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