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05-16-2020, 08:26 AM

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Deafguppy

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the LCA ranks are being hammered by this on ALL fleets. By the way LCAs need sim training soooooooo there’s more sim slots down.

anyone know how long it takes to get an LCA signed off? 3 months? Not to mention posting the position interviewing and selection. 4-6 months before they are cleared to conduct?

They can elect to wait to send the bumped current LCA’s to their new seats and just eat the pay protection.

05-16-2020, 08:54 AM

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They can elect to wait to send the bumped current LCA’s to their new seats and just eat the pay protection.

You beat me to it. I'd expect LCAs to be the last ones to be sent to training after being displaced unless there's not much demand for LCAs in current fleet but there is a demand for LCAs in their new fleet.
Example: 777 LCAs probably won't be in high demand.

05-16-2020, 09:11 AM

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agree......until you furlough all the instructors you need.......4000 puts a HEAVY cut into the 737.

A 4000 cut would furlough over 50-55% of instructors on the 737.

05-16-2020, 09:30 AM

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A 4000 cut would furlough over 50-55% of instructors on the 737.

yeah I counted 77 that’s a huge number

05-16-2020, 09:40 AM

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To add to all of this the MAX is still due back in SEP. if the company wants to fly them every 737 pilot will need atleast 1 sim in the new MAX sims.

05-16-2020, 09:47 AM

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yeah I counted 77 that’s a huge number

How long would it take to retrain 777/787 PIs? (Those fleets will likely have surplus PIs)

… 4000 is probably deeper than what the 1 Oct cut will be. Move that number to 2500 - now how many 737 PIs are furloughed?

05-16-2020, 09:56 AM

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A 2500 cut gets about 30-35 PIs on 737.

My best GUESS for those not trained on aircraft 8-10 weeks to start teaching some qual lessons, much longer till fully qualified for all PI events. For all the events that required FAA observation before teaching, months before fully quailed. For the next year, my guess is they need all the instructors they can get on 737.

Just my best guess.

05-16-2020, 10:01 AM

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full Qual course, IOE, consolidate, observe B1-4 and FFS1-4 then beonserved instructing those lessons. Since they where already PIs probably fast track straight into observing FFS6-9 and CQT, then observed instructing those lessons. Then again since already a PI fast tracked into observing QMV, CQMV, LDRQ, CQTL then observed instructing those lessons then FAA sign off.

8 months to a year. Also all those observations remove instructors from the sked not to mention the massive increase in required QCs.

05-16-2020, 10:16 AM

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also if they can 4000 they will lose a few 777 instructors and actually quite a few 787 instructors......probably more than they would like.

the 756 would lose about half as well which means not many could be sent to the 737

05-16-2020, 10:44 AM

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Can someone please explain the requirements for the various requal courses? I found the syllabi for requals 1, 2 and 3 on the iPad, but it doesn’t really delineate the time lapses since the last time you were current on the specific fleet. Thanks.