Displacements, merger and reserve is a choice
#21
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Every few month, *insert airline* is buy us (Spirit) Earlier this year it was SWA. If you head over to the SWA section, i think there’s still discussion about it.
#22
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They’re to busy talking about picking up the pieces of UAL, Delta , and AA to even mention Spirit right now.😄
#23
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First off “reserve is a choice”... Oh the irony! For anybody who has thought that to be true, let this be a wake up call. And yes I know that quitting is a choice.. Let’s just skip that stupidity and agree that’s not on the table for this discussion. We need a sustainable, non abusive reserve system at this airline ASAP! This is no longer an issue we can put off on the JR. guys and gals and call it a choice or “paying your dues”. Being forced back on reserve and especially for those now forced to commute to it should NOT be a sentence of corporal punishment. We have to fix our abusive reserve system!
In 2008 I was an A-320 Captain based in LAX just prior to the MAD (Merger Announcement Date) I was displaced out of the left seat. It doesn’t matter how long you were a captain or a WB F/O or how many people have been furloughed behind you, for ISL purposes you are where you are on the MAD. Those are the cold, hard facts.
This will be displacement number 7 or 8 ( I’ve kind of lost count) for me and number two off the left seat if it happens. Same circus, same act, slightly different clowns this time.
My guess is that we might well see another round of mergers and acquisitions after this mess is over.
In 2020 I find myself in a very similar situation though I haven’t officially been displaced as of yet, the writing is on the wall. Going on 23 years I will very likely be unable to hold a captain seat anywhere in the company when this all shakes out. Many of our pilots will be on the street.
A merger after massive displacements and furloughs is going to be a major ISL nightmare.
Just some not so random thoughts on this sunny day in May 2020.
In 2008 I was an A-320 Captain based in LAX just prior to the MAD (Merger Announcement Date) I was displaced out of the left seat. It doesn’t matter how long you were a captain or a WB F/O or how many people have been furloughed behind you, for ISL purposes you are where you are on the MAD. Those are the cold, hard facts.
This will be displacement number 7 or 8 ( I’ve kind of lost count) for me and number two off the left seat if it happens. Same circus, same act, slightly different clowns this time.
My guess is that we might well see another round of mergers and acquisitions after this mess is over.
In 2020 I find myself in a very similar situation though I haven’t officially been displaced as of yet, the writing is on the wall. Going on 23 years I will very likely be unable to hold a captain seat anywhere in the company when this all shakes out. Many of our pilots will be on the street.
A merger after massive displacements and furloughs is going to be a major ISL nightmare.
Just some not so random thoughts on this sunny day in May 2020.
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If we do buy another airline it’ll be funny to see the same guys still claim that all Captains are the same, now that they are at the widebody airline. I wonder if they have changed their tune or if that manta was just because it was self-serving. I’ll also bet if we have furloughees when it happens, they aren’t demanding our own furloughed pilots be stapled because they “didn’t bring a job” to the merger.
By definition, furloughed pilots don’t bring a job to a merger. Don’t let the liquor do the thinkin’.
#25
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If we do buy another airline it’ll be funny to see the same guys still claim that all Captains are the same, now that they are at the widebody airline. I wonder if they have changed their tune or if that manta was just because it was self-serving. I’ll also bet if we have furloughees when it happens, they aren’t demanding our own furloughed pilots be stapled because they “didn’t bring a job” to the merger.
Jumbo let it go you should be glad united didn't go tango uniform
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maybe in dog years but it was really changed after the Nicolau award. The stuff you guys come up with to keep the hate going I love it. Keep hating its good for your health and my seniority.
#28
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You know what they call a job with no retirement, no healthcare, no responsibilities, and no pay...? Furloughed.
Sure sounds like unemployed to me. I’m all ears to hear your “argument “ because the state unemployment office was giving me beer money for a reason. Don’t think for a second our furloughed pilots will get the lottery ticket we got during the merger here if we merge with another ALPA carrier. What are the odds of two Jim Bruscias existing in this world?
#29
Personally, I’d prefer organic growth over a M&A.
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