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Old 05-08-2020, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Freight Dawg
We could then open up a domicile up in ANC!
Yes, and sell 2/3's of the 767 spare parts and consolidate the rest someplace the freighters will never go.
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Old 05-08-2020, 08:50 AM
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Yes, and sell 2/3's of the 767 spare parts and consolidate the rest someplace the freighters will never go.
That would be perfect! We know how to do that. Finally something UAL is good at.
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The question on converting airplanes to freighters was broached, but they dismissed it as a very expensive proposition with low ROI.
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Old 05-08-2020, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Freight Dawg
Maybe now that we know how to operate freight only flights, we should convert some of our ‘67’s into freighters. We could then open up a domicile up in ANC!

That would be awesome. I don’t ever want to sit through the sort at 0200 again with domestic night freight, but international freight is the best deal in the industry. No drama from passengers or flight attendants, no phone call to take a leak, put your meal in the oven when you want, and fly in your pajamas. Freight is great, and passengers are overrated. I wish that it would work on paper. All I need to do now is figure out how to go over to UPS and take my seniority. I can always dream.
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The question on converting airplanes to freighters was broached, but they dismissed it as a very expensive proposition with low ROI.
Yes, I seem to remember that. It was around 2001-2002 I believe.
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All of that makes sense. However our “leadership” is leading through fear. Threatening furloughs and a massive displacement. AAL leadership has come out and said their goal is zero furloughs. They are taking a more positive approach. I get that the sky is falling but our leadership could at least fake an effort to not furlough a third of all UAL employees.
You like the “keep the hearts and minds” of the employees trick? That’s what they did with the pensions. UAL’s lead attorney admitted after termination that they never had any intention of saving them from day 1 of the bankruptcy. However, it was important to string the employees along believing they would. Remember, Parker is the guy that not long ago boldly proclaimed that they would never lose money again.
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Regarding passenger airline Cargo flying. Below is a YouTube link to an interesting video showing why it’s working for some passenger airlines now and almost certainly will in the not long term. It starts by explaining why demand for Air cargo is up, mostly because the massive amount (economy of scale) of passenger flights that carried smaller amounts of cargo in their bellies are virtually non existent in the past weeks. About half way through the 12 min video it explains the factors associated with costs that make it beneficial now and not later on. Back to Netflix

https://youtu.be/r2oPk20OHBE
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Old 05-08-2020, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Brahma Fear
All of that makes sense. However our “leadership” is leading through fear. Threatening furloughs and a massive displacement. AAL leadership has come out and said their goal is zero furloughs. They are taking a more positive approach. I get that the sky is falling but our leadership could at least fake an effort to not furlough a third of all UAL employees.
Fear is SK style though
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Old 05-08-2020, 06:22 PM
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Almost 50% of cargo worldwide goes in the belly of pax jets. There will be plenty of business flying around this cargo.
Worldwide just-in -time supply chains are in a shambles. Wait till Ford tries pumping out F-150's and find out they are missing 3 parts.

The next 6 months will be a mad scramble to put "first world" back together. No one ever designed it from scratch, it developed over many decades. Now, they have to redesign it from scratch, which no one has ever done before.

What is going on in the US meat industry it a tiny little microcosm of what is to come.

Grab some popcorn. It is going to be interesting to watch.
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Originally Posted by Brahma Fear
All of that makes sense. However our “leadership” is leading through fear. Threatening furloughs and a massive displacement. AAL leadership has come out and said their goal is zero furloughs. They are taking a more positive approach. I get that the sky is falling but our leadership could at least fake an effort to not furlough a third of all UAL employees.
So much positivity!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...ain/715467001/
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