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Old 05-04-2020, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by nopac6
Telling someone they should go back and hide in their bunker because they have a more pessimistic view (based on actual industry experience) than you do also doesn’t belong here. You see the connection?

Anyway, I honestly wish all of you the best of luck. This is going to suck for a lot of people but it will be over before you know it and then you guys are going to have record-setting careers because of all the retirements AND the fact that global air travel isn’t just some fad. It’s a mega-trend that’s going to resume its explosive growth after we get past this current sh!t.

I’ll be watching from the sidelines in a few years busy trying to keep people off my lawn.
I’ll bring the beverages and help guard your lawn.
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Old 05-04-2020, 07:49 PM
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What’s keeping CLE on life support? Not only did they not close it, they are only displacing about 10%.
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Old 05-04-2020, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Nucflash
If you are getting displaced from NB CA and cannot hold WB FO you might want to consider bidding the other NB. If all such NB CA did that it would have a very, very interesting effect on TK operations.
That's my plan. Another type and 90 hrs. at CA pay
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Old 05-04-2020, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Nucflash
The suspicion certainly has to be they will want to use 175s to substitute for narrowbodies on a lot of routes. You think Jonathan Ornstein hasn’t already called up Kirby?

”Scott, sorry about all this....how can we help??”
How many socially distanced passengers can fit on a 175? They’ve already upgauged two DEN-MCO flights from 320 to 757-300 even after they grounded the fleet in May, I assume because the loads required more seats. If travel picks up, but our seating policy remains, I don’t think RJs will be enough to hack the load.
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Old 05-04-2020, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Deathray
How many socially distanced passengers can fit on a 175? They’ve already upgauged two DEN-MCO flights from 320 to 757-300 even after they grounded the fleet in May, I assume because the loads required more seats. If travel picks up, but our seating policy remains, I don’t think RJs will be enough to hack the load.
Seems like we'd want to increase frequency to adhere to social distancing policies as demand improves, which would drive the need for more pilots....but what do I know? Apparently SK doesn't think so.
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Old 05-04-2020, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
Nothing is as bleak as it looks initially, and rarely as good as it appears at first. As a furlough survivor (along with many many others) use this time to prepare for a possible change of job for a bit. It is always a great idea to consider other career options. A capable pilot should be able to find a job locally. I had friends who just barely held on (and missed furloughs in 2001) and their experience wasn't quite what they wanted/expected for a few years. Quite honestly, being furloughed quickly back then helped me come to terms with the situation and prepare a plan B. I was actually home more, made comparable money after my contemporaries took payouts and downgrades, and was home a whole lot more than those who bounced around the bottom of the list.
My wife was a SAHM and we made do, in fact, it helped us set up a long term plan that would have worked without ever returning. Keep positive, focus on what you can do and try not to worry about stuff that is largely out of your control.
Thanks for posting this. In my experience, those whom I’ve flown with who barely hung on definitely had more of a negative attitude than those who were furloughed, worked elsewhere, and then returned. Those who barely missed furlough really got abused and kicked around for many years through pay cuts, BK, seat stagnation, crappy work rules, etc. So, although being let go stinks, it might also provide other opportunities. Maybe some cool mil orders. Maybe a non-flying job where you can be home with the fam every night. I mean, you’re already hired so you don’t have to worry about being current. They’re gonna retrain you when you return.
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Old 05-05-2020, 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CousinEddie
I’ll bring the beverages and help guard your lawn.
... and tell the kids to turn down the volume on that crap they call music ... jeeze
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Old 05-05-2020, 04:05 AM
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Is reserve still a choice? Asking for a friend...
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Old 05-05-2020, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Skip0927
Is reserve still a choice? Asking for a friend...
It is a choice to stay home getting paid 73 on reserve vice 50 on SRL.
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Old 05-05-2020, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Nucflash
If you are getting displaced from NB CA and cannot hold WB FO you might want to consider bidding the other NB. If all such NB CA did that it would have a very, very interesting effect on TK operations.

That's it! Bid for a transition long course! If we ALL did that......
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