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Old 04-28-2020, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by OVC010CB
Icelandair laid off 95% of their pilots today.

Their unemployment system and lay-off is significantly different than a FAR 121 airline furlough.
Plus they’re a single type rating airline.
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Old 04-28-2020, 03:53 PM
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Mark my words. No more than 1,000 furloughs IF we furlough. This thing will turn around much quicker than expected.
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Originally Posted by Starscream
If the company were to do that (furlough 8000 right away all at once) pretty much all the FOs are gone, and you’re just left with CAs. You’ve got narrow body fleets that have virtually no one qualified to fly them from the right seat. They’d need to start training the bulk of the widebody pilots en-masse now to have everyone in their new seats by October (for those avoiding the furlough). And you haven’t even had the displacement bid yet.

And much of American is still closed down. People aren’t traveling because there’s no where to travel to. Weddings, sporting events, Vegas, Disney, business meetings, conferences, conventions, etc, etc all on hold. Of course airports are still deserted. The outlook for summer 2021 will drive a lot of what the industry will look like going into the 4th quarter.
who’s going to do the walk around and load the box? This airline would implode.
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Ticket bookings are 4% of their norm.

Just sayin’....
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Old 04-28-2020, 04:10 PM
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Ticket bookings are 4% of their norm.

Just sayin’....
Glad you brought that up because it’s super relevant. How many tables are occupied in the restaurants? They should probably give up too.
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
Ticket bookings are 4% of their norm.

Just sayin’....
Because the economy was forced to close. Just saying.
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Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp
Mark my words. No more than 1,000 furloughs IF we furlough. This thing will turn around much quicker than expected.
I'd short that bet.

15-30% furloughs for all airlines.
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
I'd short that bet.

15-30% furloughs for all airlines.
Won't happen. Government will be back with round 2 of airline stimulus
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Originally Posted by drywhitetoast
Because the economy was forced to close. Just saying.
world wide trade and commerce has hit a few speed bumps over the centuries.

current estimate is close identical to 2008 contraction. next closest model is 90 years ago in depression.

It will suck, but the up-swing on the otherside should be a nice wave to ride. Now that the world knows how to deal with C19 and the health care system was protected against a sudden surge due to lockdowns and social distancing the world will try to get back to normal.

The lockdowns and travel bans were all about protecting our health care capacity and our supply chain of PPE, and respirators.
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Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp
Mark my words. No more than 1,000 furloughs IF we furlough. This thing will turn around much quicker than expected.
I like your optimism!! We truly have no clue what is going to happen. No one has a crystal ball when (not if but when) people start flying again. Just my opinion, I think this will come back faster as well, however, I don’t think with the same numbers. If I were a betting man, my prediction is 50% pre Corona traffic by end of year. 75% by end of 2021. No idea when/if return to pre Corona traffic. Hey, 50% is better than nothing 😉

I wish the absolute best for my airline colleagues, I have multiple friends who have been hired in the last 18 months, I can’t even imagine what they must be feeling, wife, kids, house, food, etc. I will say this, even if I had no desire, I would be hedging my bets right now with UPS and Fedex. If you don’t end up getting furloughed, no harm no foul, just some time inputting app. I would be hedging my bets just in case.
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