Furlough estimate
#681
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: 787 Captain
Posts: 1,512
Call your reps and plead your case... and please stop negotiating in public. Rather than discuss give always on this forum use your time wisely by talking to your FOs and tell them to get there finances in order now while they can.
Some of you ‘captains’ are filling your FOs craniums with false hope that they will be saved.... and it is only going to hurt them in the long run by holding on to this hope until the day the intern takes their company ID.
Some of you ‘captains’ are filling your FOs craniums with false hope that they will be saved.... and it is only going to hurt them in the long run by holding on to this hope until the day the intern takes their company ID.
#682
On Reserve
Joined APC: Mar 2020
Posts: 15
No Concessions.
No furloughs. Hopefully.
Be in the best position to make us stronger than before.
Have our cake and eat in too. Yes please.
Let’s trust the Union to protect our interests, and I believe they will.
Finally, everything seems to be trending in the right direction. Thought I was definitely getting furloughed...not so sure anymore. Cheer!
No furloughs. Hopefully.
Be in the best position to make us stronger than before.
Have our cake and eat in too. Yes please.
Let’s trust the Union to protect our interests, and I believe they will.
Finally, everything seems to be trending in the right direction. Thought I was definitely getting furloughed...not so sure anymore. Cheer!
#683
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2019
Position: Guppy.
Posts: 285
Can someone help explain why the company would want to have lower line values long-term? Why would temporarily lower values now have any bearing on lower line values later? I see no benefit to the company in long-term lowering of line value, whether by their ask or in BK. What am I missing here? Serious question. Why would this one temporary bandaid, if you will, rip us in the future? If there’s something I’m not seeing, I’m just trying to see what it is.
#684
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2019
Position: 757/767
Posts: 185
Perfect example why you NEVER give things up. You know all those values used to be 5 hours, right? Min guarantee used to be 70. Have you noticed in the slow winter months it can hard to fly a full schedule? (Many lines built a min, 65 hours). They’ve already forced a concession on us. We were due a contract last year. Yet, during the most profitable time in airline history, we couldn’t secure contract advancements. Are you really naive enough to think we will ever get back what we give away today?
#685
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,610
Looking around the company and from a management perspective, the only 2 low hanging fruits I see from the companies perspective is getting rid of the 756 and 764 fleets, and the pilot contract.
#686
BK judge: “What was your pilot payroll cost last month to sustain operation?”
UAL: “300 million.”
BL judge: “OK, cut that 20%.”
ALPA: “But that was after we lost 40% in displacements and then a voluntary reduction in hours!”
BK judge:
UAL: “20% it is, roger!”
ALPA: “But we had an ironclad agreement!”
UAL: “Also, we’re going to furlough.”
UAL: “300 million.”
BL judge: “OK, cut that 20%.”
ALPA: “But that was after we lost 40% in displacements and then a voluntary reduction in hours!”
BK judge:
UAL: “20% it is, roger!”
ALPA: “But we had an ironclad agreement!”
UAL: “Also, we’re going to furlough.”
#687
BK judge: “What was your pilot payroll cost last month to sustain operation?”
UAL: “300 million.”
BL judge: “OK, cut that 20%.”
ALPA: “But that was after we lost 40% in displacements and then a voluntary reduction in hours!”
BK judge:
UAL: “20% it is, roger!”
ALPA: “But we had an ironclad agreement!”
UAL: “Also, we’re going to furlough.”
UAL: “300 million.”
BL judge: “OK, cut that 20%.”
ALPA: “But that was after we lost 40% in displacements and then a voluntary reduction in hours!”
BK judge:
UAL: “20% it is, roger!”
ALPA: “But we had an ironclad agreement!”
UAL: “Also, we’re going to furlough.”
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