Furlough estimate
05-14-2020, 03:26 PM
#521
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I think you are probably right... IMO the Initial number of furloughs will be based off the Jan 23, 2016 date in the contract and occur sometime between the 120-90 day point.
One question, does anyone know the CCS seniority number for the pilot hired after this date? I was surprised that they don’t show this date on the master seniority list like they did in the past...
One question, does anyone know the CCS seniority number for the pilot hired after this date? I was surprised that they don’t show this date on the master seniority list like they did in the past...
My WAG is based on the last vacancy bid prior to this displacement and the scope of this displacement. It may not be far off from that DOH.
Lee
05-14-2020, 03:46 PM
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There are lots of 175’s just sitting around right now. Much of the cost in removing seats is taking the plane out of service to do the work. Many are already out of service. If they want to dramatically reduce our payroll, they can start pulling seats now. I don’t put put too much faith in the January 2016 date. They are going to go as deep as they want regardless. If most of the analyst are right, we could furlough 30%, and still be flexible to respond with recovery if we find ourselves down around 50-60% this fall.
05-14-2020, 04:01 PM
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There are lots of 175’s just sitting around right now. Much of the cost in removing seats is taking the plane out of service to do the work. Many are already out of service. If they want to dramatically reduce our payroll, they can start pulling seats now. I don’t put put too much faith in the January 2016 date. They are going to go as deep as they want regardless. If most of the analyst are right, we could furlough 30%, and still be flexible to respond with recovery if we find ourselves down around 50-60% this fall.
As for 175s, I hope Whiteferg burns in hell. He unilaterally let that camel into the tent.
Hang in there everyone.
Lee
05-14-2020, 04:31 PM
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05-14-2020, 05:15 PM
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05-14-2020, 07:11 PM
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2325 is still a big number, but why would they necessarily stop there? Why make several smaller cuts after that when making one big cut would instantly save money, and they only train who they need? If we’re not predicted to be anywhere near their 70% number, what would prevent them from furloughing 3,000 plus? If we end up in better shape, they simply cancel some furloughs. Taking seats out of planes that are mostly just sitting anyway shouldn’t be that big of a deal. I obviously don’t want any of this to happen, but since we push the contract to the limits for our advantage, we can only expect them to do the same for theirs.
05-14-2020, 09:29 PM
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2325 is still a big number, but why would they necessarily stop there? Why make several smaller cuts after that when making one big cut would instantly save money, and they only train who they need? If we’re not predicted to be anywhere near their 70% number, what would prevent them from furloughing 3,000 plus? If we end up in better shape, they simply cancel some furloughs. Taking seats out of planes that are mostly just sitting anyway shouldn’t be that big of a deal. I obviously don’t want any of this to happen, but since we push the contract to the limits for our advantage, we can only expect them to do the same for theirs.
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