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Old 05-03-2020, 08:49 AM
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It's going to be very interesting indeed. I've flown Boeing airplanes for over 25 years. Now I reckon i'll have to figure out airbus. That will be hard enough. Then add to it, ipads and on-line learning. When I first checked out I had paper manuals and I could hi-lite in my books. This will be much slower than the training folks think it will be.

You'll have plenty of time to adjust to iPads/on-line learning learning while 4000ish of us are adjusting to being furloughed. Our hearts bleed for you.
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Old 05-03-2020, 09:03 AM
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Not sure he was making quite the political statement you thought. There are some anomalies IE Kansas and Vermont and Maine but the map does look fairly much like a political map for red and blue. The conservative states like TX OK MT etc have not had nearly the restriction imposed on travel by the governors. The ones that were imposed here in TX, people accepted for a SHORT time and are now demanding the governor to step aside and let us get to work. I'm a conservative, but don't fault the governors of other states. They answer to their constituents, not me. Cheers.

EDIT: reread his original post....you're right. He did attack the dems for prolonging this. I'm not on that wagon just yet.
Pretty much every red state on that map has a major airport in it with heavy international traffic, with the exception of LA that just hosted Mardi Gras before the fun started.
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Old 05-03-2020, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by baseball
It's going to be very interesting indeed. I've flown Boeing airplanes for over 25 years. Now I reckon i'll have to figure out airbus. That will be hard enough. Then add to it, ipads and on-line learning. When I first checked out I had paper manuals and I could hi-lite in my books. This will be much slower than the training folks think it will be.
Sounds hard and you’ve already been through so much in this industry. Maybe you should retire early and save yourself the trouble. Those of us in the bottom 30% will gladly learn Airbus in the current training format.
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Old 05-03-2020, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
thanks for seeding the lawsuit.......guess you haven’t been around long leg enough to know how the game is played. Or you are just a plant......everyone knows what needs to be done and should be done all that typing it out does is make more difficult.
I have to disagree. Everyone hired since the merger does not know how the game is played, for that matter since either bankruptcy. It is our responsibility to educate the newbies on what to do.

Your point is valid though. You will never hear anyone associated with the union tell you not to pick up flying. We had a court order telling us we had to continue with past practice, which meant required to pick up open time.

Attend your local council meetings--which will be interesting going forward with the social distancing rules. Talk with your reps. There are times when council business is conducted off the record for a reason. We do not necessarily want to give our battle plan to the company. I've said it before, the courts are not labor's friend. We are labor if anyone is misinformed. If ALPA is taken to court it will be very difficult for us.

Stay the course, enforce our legally negotiated contract, insist on it!
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Old 05-03-2020, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by baseball
It's going to be very interesting indeed. I've flown Boeing airplanes for over 25 years. Now I reckon i'll have to figure out airbus. That will be hard enough. Then add to it, ipads and on-line learning. When I first checked out I had paper manuals and I could hi-lite in my books. This will be much slower than the training folks think it will be.
Feel free to take early retirement. TOTD material here. Unbelievable.
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Old 05-03-2020, 09:34 AM
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I have to disagree. Everyone hired since the merger does not know how the game is played, for that matter since either bankruptcy. It is our responsibility to educate the newbies on what to do.

Your point is valid though. You will never hear anyone associated with the union tell you not to pick up flying. We had a court order telling us we had to continue with past practice, which meant required to pick up open time.

Attend your local council meetings--which will be interesting going forward with the social distancing rules. Talk with your reps. There are times when council business is conducted off the record for a reason. We do not necessarily want to give our battle plan to the company. I've said it before, the courts are not labor's friend. We are labor if anyone is misinformed. If ALPA is taken to court it will be very difficult for us.

Stay the course, enforce our legally negotiated contract, insist on it!
even though we re new to United a lot of regionals furloughed in 2008 too, mine did. It’s our first rode in the big leagues but we have been here before. But your point is valid as well though we do need education when necessary.
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Old 05-03-2020, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by baseball
It's going to be very interesting indeed. I've flown Boeing airplanes for over 25 years. Now I reckon i'll have to figure out airbus. That will be hard enough. Then add to it, ipads and on-line learning. When I first checked out I had paper manuals and I could hi-lite in my books. This will be much slower than the training folks think it will be.
Delta pilot here. When I hear those comments around our flagpole it’s usually because the double breasted suit is too tight (like a corset) or our hats a strangulating the blood from our head to the common sense organs.

Usually I am a fan of guys not wanting to train on the Airbus (as an Airbus guy). But this comment was so utterly tone deaf it can’t possibly be real.
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Old 05-03-2020, 09:49 AM
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Delta pilot here. When I hear those comments around our flagpole it’s usually because the double breasted suit is too tight (like a corset) or our hats a strangulating the blood from our head to the common sense organs.

Usually I am a fan of guys not wanting to train on the Airbus (as an Airbus guy). But this comment was so utterly tone deaf it can’t possibly be real.
I think this guy was being a smartass. I think he was saying how long training is going to take because it's "very" difficult for him.
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Old 05-03-2020, 10:02 AM
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I think this guy was being a smartass. I think he was saying how long training is going to take because it's "very" difficult for him.
I think he is a jerk personally. True colors on people from all walks of life are starting to shine.
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Old 05-03-2020, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by baseball
It's going to be very interesting indeed. I've flown Boeing airplanes for over 25 years. Now I reckon i'll have to figure out airbus. That will be hard enough. Then add to it, ipads and on-line learning. When I first checked out I had paper manuals and I could hi-lite in my books. This will be much slower than the training folks think it will be.
There is total devastation directed to the bottom of the seniority list and your carping about training? You sound like a real feminine hygiene nozzle.
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