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Old 05-03-2020, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Nucflash
They use the junior IE to do the mass retrains over the summer then dump them on the street in October. After that how many do they really need?
they aren’t going to get very many trained......that’s what I have been telling you. They are blocking one sim period per per day for cleaning. On the 737 that’s the equivilant of 10 sessions or 2 sims fully down every single day. Then add in CQ and and you have very limited space to train a boatload of full qual crews.

training is not as open as some seem to think
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Originally Posted by JimLaheyTPS
Eye opening is an understatement! It’s going to be months before any of us can wrap our heads around this.

Refresh my memory, you’re a PI currently? If so what’s the vibe among current PI’s as far as sticking it out over the summer to train ones replacement? I’m just curious how all the junior PI’s that are likely going to be on the street feel about the challenges they will be facing in the next few months. I truly feel for them in this situation as I can’t imagine what the mental toll would be like. Knowing that each student you’d be training is there against their will and is also likely under a lot emotional stress.
I don’t know t ugh e answer to your question.

what I can tell ou is that I’m certainly not safe from furlough.....if they furlough 3500-4000 then I’ll be either the United old or one of the last ones out the door. But I’m not going to let that affect my job.....If United kills people de to poor training then we will all be hanging up our pads.......

but yes in times like this I can imagine people are not thrilled about being in training and will have other things in their minds. There will probably be a spike in failures and retrains. The instructors will need to keep the students very focused and that is a lot of work.
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Old 05-03-2020, 08:14 AM
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but yes in times like this I can imagine people are not thrilled about being in training and will have other things in their minds. There will probably be a spike in failures and retrains. The instructors will need to keep the students very focused and that is a lot of work.
It's going to be very interesting indeed. I've flown Boeing airplanes for over 25 years. Now I reckon i'll have to figure out airbus. That will be hard enough. Then add to it, ipads and on-line learning. When I first checked out I had paper manuals and I could hi-lite in my books. This will be much slower than the training folks think it will be.
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It's going to be very interesting indeed. I've flown Boeing airplanes for over 25 years. Now I reckon i'll have to figure out airbus. That will be hard enough. Then add to it, ipads and on-line learning. When I first checked out I had paper manuals and I could hi-lite in my books. This will be much slower than the training folks think it will be.
You’re kidding right?
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It's going to be very interesting indeed. I've flown Boeing airplanes for over 25 years. Now I reckon i'll have to figure out airbus. That will be hard enough. Then add to it, ipads and on-line learning. When I first checked out I had paper manuals and I could hi-lite in my books. This will be much slower than the training folks think it will be.
If you don’t like what it’s doing, just let go of the stick for a second.
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Originally Posted by Huell
Thank you for the most informative post. I didn't realize it was all the Dems fault. I'm betting your head really hurt coming up with all of that. SMH
Not to be political, but there are really two competing thoughts as it relates to business. Just take away the names of any parties. You can call it the rosebud party and the cirrus cloud party. What's important is what they stand for and what they produce. Talk doesn't matter. Results do. The principles they stand for, produce results.

1. Business and commerce is fostered by a flexible government that believes in the power of capitalism to be the engine of the economy and to provide upward mobility for society. Federal Taxes should support interstate commerce, appropriate regulation, and national defense.


or...

2. Business and those than run them should be punitively taxed and those moneys re-distributed to lower wage earners and illegal immigrant-foreign nationals. Those moneys re-distributed come in the form of Taxes and things like federal support to interstate commerce and national defense will suffer.

The two belief systems effect corporations and small businesses in different but similar ways.

If over-taxed a small business can't compete. If over-regulated they can't be nimble and flexible enough to meet market conditions. If the business owners themselves are over-taxed then they can't be competitive in their offerings to hire and retain talent. In large cities where one political party has dominated for half a century or more we can see the full effect on those policies and laws at the local level. it's important to see things at the local level, because thats the lowest level, and that level is where we are. How are the schools? Is real estate value fair? How is the crime? Do local businesses flourish? How is the cleanliness and sanitary conditions? how are local services? how are the roads and infrastructure? How is the climate of government? Does government give away your tax moneys to foreign nationals,or do they spend it on you, the citizen tax-payer? Are your children safe? Are your children being educated as you would like? Are your children surpassing the parents in terms of their quality of life?

Government can create an atmosphere where the people and the businesses they create produce wealth, which is a good thing, or it can strangle business so it can't produce wealth and therefore make those people dependent upon the state.

My biggest question moving forward is this: What does Joe Biden know about business and commerce? i think he's been a government employee his entire adult life. No way he brings us out of this mess unless we're all government employees working for a nationally owned airline. Try negotiating a labor contract with a nationally owned, and fully subsidized airline. No more contract!!
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Originally Posted by baseball
It's going to be very interesting indeed. I've flown Boeing airplanes for over 25 years. Now I reckon i'll have to figure out airbus. That will be hard enough. Then add to it, ipads and on-line learning. When I first checked out I had paper manuals and I could hi-lite in my books. This will be much slower than the training folks think it will be.
4000 Pilots will be out on the street, @ss.
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Not to be political,
That is the most political post I’ve read here in a while. The attacks on individual politicians is less political because people are generally attacking their ambition, selfishness or sense of self importance, rather than their actually policies... you just straw-manned one side and steel-manned the other.

and btw, this coming from someone believes the blue governors are definitely politically motivated when taking most careful steps possible regarding lockdowns.
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4000 Pilots will be out on the street, @ss.
It’s not like this is new behavior from this dude.
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
You’re kidding right?
I think the wham bam thank you maam 'quickie" E-training we do just glosses over allot of things. Monotone computer powerpoint instruction is so rewarding and informative.

My last course was an in-person formal ground school with chalk boards, white boards and 30 pounds of paper flight manuals.

kidding about what?.....When I went to college the internet hadn't been invented yet. I remember pilots filing OJI reports for having to use a "mouse" for CBT's and getting carpel tunnel syndrome.
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